<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_30284" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_35374" dir="ltr">Dear colleagues,</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_35376" dir="ltr">It appears we the electorate have on our hands two imperfect and flawed human beings who happen to be racing from the back of the ship of state to command the Captain's Wheel where they can keep the ship aright and turn it as necessary. We put our trust in the one with the most comprehensive, intentional and futuric map over the sea of life be it tranquil or tumultuous. We also deign to follow the one with the most inclusive vision and understanding of the strategies, tactics, etc. to deal with the moral contradiction as faced by diverse communities at various strata of being (from displaced to developed). I find myself asking the question: Which candidate is best prepared to repent on behalf of the community writ large that struggles to inject and focus care into structural E-C-P renewal and work with those who are ready to demonstrate a primary concern for the betterment of our planet on behalf of the world?</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_35769" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_34578" dir="ltr">Grace & Peace,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_35033" dir="ltr"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_34582" dir="ltr">Dawn Collins</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_34631" dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">We love the Source because the Source first loved us.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_35835" dir="ltr">- 1 John 4:19</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_34646" dir="ltr"><br><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_33422" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_33421" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_33420" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_33419" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478133944269_33418" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Nancy Trask via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Dharmalingam Vinasithamby' <dvinasithamby@yahoo.com>; 'Order Ecumenical Community' <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:55 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Clinton's relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4995027334"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv4995027334WordSection1"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Very insightful, Dharma. The US needs a huge and profound awakening to our effects on other nations.</span></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Thank you,</span></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"><span style='font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>Nancy Trask</span></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", sans-serif;'> OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via OE<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 1, 2016 8:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Len Hockley <LCHockley@gmail.com>; laurelcg@aol.com; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Clinton's relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal"> </div><div><div id="yiv4995027334yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478044925007_35734"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'>As an outsider, being in the Order/ICA gave me a close-up view of the US and how its citizens related to it. In all those years, beginning with Nixon all the way up to Obama, I’ve seen it invade and destroy nations around the world, releasing waves of refugees and other miseries. But within the US, people lived in a cocoon that helped them avert their eyes. I remember the Vietnam war protesters and the many young people who fled the US in order not to be driven to kill “gooks” overseas. I noticed that at best, we were silent on this and at worst, disapproving. When I look back, I see that the protesters were the “sensitive and responsive” part that Niebuhr wrote about. I also noticed the hunger among us to cite links to famous figures while pointing out that to live in the “no longer and the not-yet” was to be “nobodies”. Perhaps this was the effect of consuming the stories meant for our framing and fund-raising strategies.</span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478044925007_35734"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478044925007_35736"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'>I see that same hunger now reflected in recalling some distant crossing of trails with Hillary Clinton. Americans have been set up by the political elite to adopt positions around two equally ugly candidates put before them for the exercise of their “democratic rights”. For all the emotions the Republican-Democrat tension evokes in our emails, election after election, that rivalry is a sham. This is a nation ruled by a “single party with two factions”. Whichever you praise or denigrate, the real owners of the land always win. And for the rest of us around the world, we can only wait for the light from this “beacon on the hill” to eventually fade. Then, perhaps, the US will take its place as an ordinary member in the community of nations.</span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478044925007_35736"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1478044925007_35736"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'>Dharma</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:.25in;background:white;"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Verdana", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Wednesday, 2 November 2016, 7:33, Len Hockley via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Helvetica", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div id="yiv4995027334"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Helvetica", sans-serif;color:black;'>Dido Jon, <b>The Naked Now</b> by Richard Rohr is required reading!<br><br>Len Hockley<br><br>On 11/1/2016 2:58 PM, via OE wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div id="yiv4995027334yqt09289"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Love this, Jon. Thanks.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Jann<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:jonzondo@juno.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jonzondo@juno.com">jonzondo@juno.com</a> via OE <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></a><br>To: isobeljimbish <a href="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au"><isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au></a>; oe <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></a><br>Cc: oe <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></a><br>Sent: Tue, Nov 1, 2016 1:37 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Clinton's relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan</span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334AOLMsgPart_1.2_f76c6b39-b797-4ea8-b769-016dc8a38f90"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Dear Group.<br>Jon Elizondo here. Son of Tony and Ellery.<br>Long time "Order kid" and short time Order adult.<br><br>This conversation is very important, especially with all the perspectives.<br>I will try to hone in now on one of my key points.<br>The change needed in the system is huge. Our current system is incredible broken in so many ways. We are a first world country "purposefully" going backwards by not investing in our infrastructure nor in our people. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>In my observation and opinion, much of the national frustration shows itself in the desire to elect Trump, or Bernie, or any alternative. The "Cry" for change is massive, and will not let up. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>One of the traps is either/or thinking.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>one of the ways forward is both/and/plus-more thinking.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>One of the traps is "personal attacks".</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>one of the ways forward is "come join us at the table".</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>What I know in my bones is that we are all connected. That mysterious truth, combined with my passion & respect, is my key to intentionally moving forward.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Walk in Beauty,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Jon</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br><br>---------- Original Message ----------<br>From: Isobel Bishop via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>To: Wilson Priscilla H <<a href="mailto:pris@teamtechpress.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pris@teamtechpress.com">pris@teamtechpress.com</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Clinton's relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan<br>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2016 07:23:32 +1100</span></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Thankyou for this conversation, colleagues. I appreciate the </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Honesty, pain and fear expressed in</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>depth,to give us outsiders some real hope.<br>Thankyou all.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>In peace and love,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Isobel <br>Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br>On 2 Nov 2016, at 7:02 am, Wilson Priscilla H via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>No one has said that better, Randy. You should put that on Facebook…so we can all copy your words. </span></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Priscilla Wilson</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Joyce Sloan via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Well said, Randy!!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016 2:20 PM, "Randy Williams via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I keep asking, but still have not seen, one shred of verifiable evidence to substantiate the charge that Hillary has committed a criminal act of any sort. She's made serious mistakes like with the private server, she has not been as transparent as she could and perhaps should have been, she got paid a lot of money for some speeches (but less than some men), she's flip-flopped on some positions she's taken like on TPP, she has a super-healthy ego (an asset for a man but a huge liability for a woman in our culture), she didn't play nice when she was First Lady trying to get health care passed, as Secretary of State she traveled the world and spoke truth to power like the Premier of China, and after much gut-wrenching deliberation and prayer she chose to stay true to her vow to her husband of "for better or worse" through "worse." And to add insult to injury, she decided to run to be the first woman in the Office of President of the United States. How dare she. Despise her for all those things and hate all her positions on the issues, but don't accuse her of being a criminal unless you have some rock solid proof that hours and years and millions of dollars worth of hearings, investigations and witch hunts by scores of government agencies, news media and nondescript malcontents have been unable to produce. I've heard the rumors, innuendos, exaggerations, conjecture, gross distortions and outright lies, everything but verifiable truth. Got any? Then let's have it. But double check your sources before you put it out there because there really are some malingering, deplorable liars afoot in the land and a lot of fools are believing them and then repeating what they heard them say and calling it truth, and it just isn't. </span></div></div><div id="yiv4995027334aolmail_m_-2242911035825110804AppleMailSignature"><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Randy<br><br>Sent from my iPad</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><br>On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Susan Fertig via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Trump was never my choice, and Hillary is a criminal--her vision for the country is my first nightmare. And Trump is just as flawed. Both of them scare me to death. But neither if the other candidates is really an option either. I fear we're about to see this great American experiment in democracy become something no less evil than the many kleptocracies around the world.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Susan</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#333333;'>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016 11:55 AM, Judi White <<a href="mailto:sophiacircle@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sophiacircle@gmail.com">sophiacircle@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Well, what you wrote is what Frumper repeats over and over. Mist who parrot him do support him. <br>I Personally prefer to read responses to a candidates vision for this nation. <br>Also I stand firm in ny admiration which never ceases, of this woman who has continued in spite of the unbelievable accusations which are so blown up out of the real world of truth and honesty that it is cause for seriously asking "Why?". <br>Why the hell bent mission to destroy a solid vision for this nation and this planet? There is no other candidate who shines so brightly and qualified to be an example for our children and grandchildren at this time. Rightly so.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016 12:20 PM, "Susan Fertig via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>How in the world did you infer that I must be a Trump supporter from my message?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Susan</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#333333;'>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016 7:56 AM, Ken Fisher <<a href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Dear Susan,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Writing to you as a Canadian Christian and 16-year Order member, I am awed by your commitment to American Republicanism and conservative Christianity. How in the world did you spend so much time with the EI/OE/ICA community and have your world view remain unaffected?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>From the perspective of Canada, we are 87% supporters of HRC and the image of America she represents. Probably Russia is 87% in favour of Donald.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Each and every ‘crime’ that I have read about that is attributed to Hillary has been most grandly committed by Republicans in previous Bush administrations.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Surely you would agree that Donald Trump is an out and out racist, sexist, homophobe, parochial narcissist and most of all a climate change denier? HRC is none of the above. Thankfully, she is responsive to both Bernie and to Elizabeth. We may get out of this mess yet. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Your phrase: "only values I see are abject greed, a pathological allegiance to lies, and arrogant flaunting of her ability to circumvent the law. She has done absolutely nothing to improve the lives of the poor and disadvantaged yet claims she has in the face of all evidence to the contrary.” is really the truth that the world sees about Trump.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>I would invite you to see all that as a projection.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Should Trump take ownership of any of the above, that would be a fine moment of grace. Would you not agree?</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Margaret Atwood, (a <span style="background:white;">Canadian poet, novelist, literary critic, essayist, and environmental activist) describes America in the midst of a Salem type </span>witch hunt. I agree. It is, at the bottom a war against women.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>While there are indeed my contradictions in American society that both the Republican and Democratic administrations must answer for, the attached article came closest - for me - in describing how the Republican voice has committed itself to an ‘end game’ and it would seem that indeed, the GOP will ‘end’.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Love and best wishes to you, Susan and to all Trump supporters who have been left without any vision other than rebellion or depression. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>We are all responsible. Everyone.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Ken in Canada.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><h1 style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;background:white;text-decoration:inherit;vertical-align:inherit;"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica", sans-serif;color:#4C4E4D;'>A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die</span><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#4C4E4D;'></span></h1></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'><a href="http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12256510/republican-party-trump-avik-roy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/1 2256510/republican-party-trump -avik-roy</a></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:03 AM, Susan Fertig via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div></div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Values??? The only values I see are abject greed, a pathological allegiance to lies, and arrogant flaunting of her ability to circumvent the law. She has done absolutely nothing to improve the lives of the poor and disadvantaged yet claims she has in the face of all evidence to the contrary. I've heard for years about this possible connection to EI/ICA, and I truly hope it's not true. It would be a horrible embarrassment to the movement.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Susan</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:#333333;'>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>On Oct 31, 2016 11:22 PM, William Salmon via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</span></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Colleagues--</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> So many raise the question concerning Hillary Clinton's relationship to E.I. I decided to cast this bread upon the waters. The first sign is that while I addressed it to Hillary Clinton, an alternate address popped up. Consequently, it may really get to her attention, to that of some aid. May it be a Kool-Aid. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> Inner Peace, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> Bill </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'>Mrs. Hillary Clinton:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> It is my prayer that this reaches you concerning your experience in 5th City, Chicago, or it could have been in Evanston. Your Youth Director, Don Jones, must have been at a training event to become known as RS-I. About the same time, a large number of us dedicated ourselves to this renewal movement that grew from our experience in Chicago Ghetto to literally embrace the world. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> It makes me wonder if your experience under his leadership influenced the values you hold dear, and now wish to step onto the platform of the Presidency to do for our United States and for the world what was embraced by the courageous citizens in 5th City. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> You carry my prayers during this last turbulent week. You have my vote. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> Grace and Peace, </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv4995027334MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style='font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;'> Pastor William E. 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