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<DIV>Colleagues:</DIV>
<DIV><BR> "The Naked Now" is not a book that I have read.
However, if the author is worth his salt, then the purpose of the book is
to note the collapsing worldview; the global social process is a shambles:
after 2000, the Economic tried a few global forays with no success; The
Political seems well illustrated by the fiasco of the US elections; The Social
has long ago disintegrated. Remember, while the <EM>local</EM> is where we live,
it is the <EM>global</EM> that has the greater impact. </DIV>
<DIV> Remember how we praised God for putting a tag on our big
toe that recorded--"To be born in late 20th and early 21st Century. To be
confessional, it is an exciting time.</DIV>
<DIV> The secret is that all those who are like me are invited
to get out of the way! The future belongs to those born after
1985. Good luck and God Speed.</DIV>
<DIV> Pastor Bill.
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV></FONT><B>To:</B> <A title=laurelcg@aol.com
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title=oe@lists.wedgeblade.net href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">Order
Ecumenical Community</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 01, 2016 6:32
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon:
Clinton's relationship to E.I. - DearSusan</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>Dido Jon, <B>The Naked Now</B> by Richard
Rohr is required reading!<BR><BR>Len Hockley<BR><BR>On 11/1/2016 2:58 PM, via
OE wrote:<BR></DIV>
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this, Jon. Thanks.</DIV>
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<DIV
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Message-----<BR>From: <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:jonzondo@juno.com">jonzondo@juno.com</A> via OE <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></A><BR>To:
isobeljimbish <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au>"><isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au></A>;
oe <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
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oe <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
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Tue, Nov 1, 2016 1:37 pm<BR>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Clinton's
relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Group.<BR>Jon Elizondo here. Son of Tony and Ellery.<BR>Long
time "Order kid" and short time Order adult.<BR><BR>This conversation is
very important, especially with all the perspectives.<BR>I will try to hone
in now on one of my key points.<BR>The change needed in the system is huge.
Our current system is incredible broken in so many ways. We are
a first world country "purposefully" going backwards by not investing in our
infrastructure nor in our people. </DIV>
<DIV>In my observation and opinion, much of the national frustration shows
itself in the desire to elect Trump, or Bernie, or any alternative.
The "Cry" for change is massive, and will not let up. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One of the traps is either/or thinking.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>one of the ways forward is both/and/plus-more thinking.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>One of the traps is "personal attacks".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>one of the ways forward is "come join us at the table".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>What I know in my bones is that we are all connected. That
mysterious truth, combined with my passion & respect, is my key to
intentionally moving forward.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Walk in Beauty,</DIV>
<DIV>Jon</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>---------- Original Message ----------<BR>From: Isobel Bishop
via OE <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>><BR>To: Wilson
Priscilla H <<A href="mailto:pris@teamtechpress.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">pris@teamtechpress.com</A>>, Order Ecumenical
Community <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [Oe
List ...] Salmon: Clinton's relationship to E.I. - Dear Susan<BR>Date: Wed,
2 Nov 2016 07:23:32 +1100<BR><BR>
<DIV>Thankyou for this conversation, colleagues. I appreciate
the </DIV>
<DIV>Honesty, pain and fear expressed in</DIV>
<DIV>depth,to give us outsiders some real hope.<BR>Thankyou all.</DIV>
<DIV>In peace and love,</DIV>
<DIV>Isobel <BR>Sent from my iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On 2 Nov 2016, at 7:02 am, Wilson Priscilla H via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>No one has said that better, Randy. You should put that on
Facebook…so we can all copy your words.
<DIV>Priscilla Wilson</DIV>
<DIV><BR>
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<DIV>On Nov 1, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Joyce Sloan via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>> wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>
<P dir=ltr>Well said, Randy!!</P>
<DIV class=aolmail_gmail_extra><BR>
<DIV class=aolmail_gmail_quote>On Nov 1, 2016 2:20 PM, "Randy Williams
via OE" <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I keep asking, but still have not seen, one shred of verifiable
evidence to substantiate the charge that Hillary has committed a
criminal act of any sort. She's made serious mistakes like with the
private server, she has not been as transparent as she could and
perhaps should have been, she got paid a lot of money for some
speeches (but less than some men), she's flip-flopped on some
positions she's taken like on TPP, she has a super-healthy ego (an
asset for a man but a huge liability for a woman in our culture), she
didn't play nice when she was First Lady trying to get health care
passed, as Secretary of State she traveled the world and spoke truth
to power like the Premier of China, and after much gut-wrenching
deliberation and prayer she chose to stay true to her vow to her
husband of "for better or worse" through "worse." And to add insult to
injury, she decided to run to be the first woman in the Office of
President of the United States. How dare she. Despise her for all
those things and hate all her positions on the issues, but don't
accuse her of being a criminal unless you have some rock solid proof
that hours and years and millions of dollars worth of hearings,
investigations and witch hunts by scores of government agencies, news
media and nondescript malcontents have been unable to produce. I've
heard the rumors, innuendos, exaggerations, conjecture, gross
distortions and outright lies, everything but verifiable truth. Got
any? Then let's have it. But double check your sources before you put
it out there because there really are some malingering, deplorable
liars afoot in the land and a lot of fools are believing them and then
repeating what they heard them say and calling it truth, and it just
isn't. </DIV>
<DIV
id=aolmail_m_-2242911035825110804AppleMailSignature>Randy<BR><BR>Sent
from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Susan Fertig via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target=_blank
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<DIV>
<DIV>Trump was never my choice, and Hillary is a criminal--her
vision for the country is my first nightmare. And Trump is just as
flawed. Both of them scare me to death. But neither if the other
candidates is really an option either. I fear we're about to see
this great American experiment in democracy become something no less
evil than the many kleptocracies around the world.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Susan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: #333333"><EM>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE
Droid</EM></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=aolmail_m_-2242911035825110804elided-text>On Nov 1, 2016
11:55 AM, Judi White <<A href="mailto:sophiacircle@gmail.com"
target=_blank moz-do-not-send="true">sophiacircle@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>
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<P dir=ltr>Well, what you wrote is what Frumper repeats over
and over. Mist who parrot him do support him. <BR>I Personally
prefer to read responses to a candidates vision for this nation.
<BR>Also I stand firm in ny admiration which never ceases,
of this woman who has continued in spite of the unbelievable
accusations which are so blown up out of the real world of truth
and honesty that it is cause for seriously asking "Why?". <BR>Why
the hell bent mission to destroy a solid vision for this nation
and this planet? There is no other candidate who shines so
brightly and qualified to be an example for our children and
grandchildren at this time. Rightly so.</P>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV class=aolmail_m_-2242911035825110804elided-text>On Nov 1,
2016 12:20 PM, "Susan Fertig via OE" <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>
<DIV>How in the world did you infer that I must be a Trump
supporter from my message?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Susan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: #333333"><EM>Sent from my Verizon 4G
LTE Droid</EM></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>On Nov 1, 2016 7:56 AM, Ken Fisher <<A
href="mailto:kenfisher1942@gmail.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">kenfisher1942@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dear Susan,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Writing to you as a Canadian Christian and 16-year Order
member, I am awed by your commitment to American Republicanism
and conservative Christianity. How in the world did you spend
so much time with the EI/OE/ICA community and have your world
view remain unaffected?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>From the perspective of Canada, we are 87% supporters of
HRC and the image of America she represents. Probably
Russia is 87% in favour of Donald.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Each and every ‘crime’ that I have read about that is
attributed to Hillary has been most grandly committed by
Republicans in previous Bush administrations.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Surely you would agree that Donald Trump is an out and
out racist, sexist, homophobe, parochial narcissist and most
of all a climate change denier? HRC is none of the above.
Thankfully, she is responsive to both Bernie and to Elizabeth.
We may get out of this mess yet. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Your phrase: "only values I see are abject greed, a
pathological allegiance to lies, and arrogant flaunting of her
ability to circumvent the law. She has done absolutely nothing
to improve the lives of the poor and disadvantaged yet claims
she has in the face of all evidence to the contrary.” is
really the truth that the world sees about Trump.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would invite you to see all that as a projection.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Should Trump take ownership of any of the above, that
would be a fine moment of grace. Would you not agree?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Margaret Atwood, (a <SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Canadian poet, novelist,
literary critic, essayist, and environmental activist)
describes America in the midst of a Salem
type </SPAN>witch hunt. I agree. It is, at the bottom a
war against women.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>While there are indeed my contradictions in American
society that both the Republican and Democratic
administrations must answer for, the attached article came
closest - for me - in describing how the Republican voice has
committed itself to an ‘end game’ and it would seem that
indeed, the GOP will ‘end’.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Love and best wishes to you, Susan and to all Trump
supporters who have been left without any vision other than
rebellion or depression. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We are all responsible. Everyone.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ken in Canada.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px">A
Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is
going to die</SPAN></SPAN></H1></DIV>
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<DIV>On Nov 1, 2016, at 12:03 AM, Susan Fertig via OE <<A
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>Values??? The only values I see are abject greed, a
pathological allegiance to lies, and arrogant flaunting of her
ability to circumvent the law. She has done absolutely nothing
to improve the lives of the poor and disadvantaged yet claims
she has in the face of all evidence to the contrary. I've
heard for years about this possible connection to EI/ICA, and
I truly hope it's not true. It would be a horrible
embarrassment to the movement.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Susan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="COLOR: #333333"><EM>Sent from my Verizon 4G
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<DIV>On Oct 31, 2016 11:22 PM, William Salmon via OE <<A
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<DIV><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
So many raise the question concerning Hillary Clinton's
relationship to E.I. I decided to cast this bread upon the
waters. The first sign is that while I addressed it to
Hillary Clinton, an alternate address popped up.
Consequently, it may really get to her attention, to that of
some aid. May it be a Kool-Aid. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
Inner Peace, </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
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Bill </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">Mrs.
Hillary Clinton:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
It is my prayer that this reaches you concerning your
experience in 5th City, Chicago, or it could have been in
Evanston. Your Youth Director, Don Jones, must have been at
a training event to become known as RS-I. About the same
time, a large number of us dedicated ourselves to this
renewal movement that grew from our experience in Chicago
Ghetto to literally embrace the world. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
It makes me wonder if your experience under his leadership
influenced the values you hold dear, and now wish to
step onto the platform of the Presidency to do for our
United States and for the world what was embraced by the
courageous citizens in 5th City. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
You carry my prayers during this last turbulent week. You
have my vote. </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">
Grace and Peace, </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN
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Pastor William E. Salmon</SPAN></DIV>
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