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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Isobel and Jim Bishop</div><div><a href="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au">isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au</a></div><div><br></div></div>Hello folks,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thankyou so much for these recent discussions. Ken, Karen and Jim, Jack and all. .</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Jim Bishop and I had a chat, and we agreed with all that has been offered ( for our two cents worth,) by way of reflective comments, at this distance. I well remember ' the end run on the Church' Karen- and as it is a baseball term I guess, I had no idea what it </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">meant, yet it still made sense to me.! </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I reckon that most of what happens in the Jesus Seminar- Westar Institute, and with the late Marcus Borg and many other deep thinkers, has evolved in its own way from our labours for the Church in the 50's and 60's and even 70's. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thank you to you all for your grace and care - yes indeed, we are all part of the Crimson Line, and we do miss Frank Bremner- his contributions to both the Ecumenical Institute and the ICA were invaluable. </div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In peace and love,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Isobel. </div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On 04/10/2016, at 2:28 AM, James Wiegel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, 'Helvetica Neue Light', 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; "><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32390"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32389">When I came to intern in the autumn of 1967, The Institute of Cultural Affairs was already a division of The Ecumenical Institute. The Fifth City project came under that heading.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32392"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30412">Karen, you raise, though, an interesting point. We studied a book back in the day called Invisible Religion, by Thomas Luckmann. He went to great lengths to describe how the phenomenon of "religion" was a part of every society, a sociological reality. We encapsulated this strain of thinking later in the social process triangles where the process of "Common Symbols" (top pole of the Cultural Commonality triangle) was delineated as "Corporate Language", "Social Art" and "Common Religion" (which included the processes of "Unifying Icons", "Common Rites", and "Inclusive Myths". The insight here is that one of the realities that comes into play when we humans get together is we start creating "religion"</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32395">ON THE OTHER HAND, IN OUR WORLD, we have a number of long-standing historical communities/movements also called "religions" -- Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, etc. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413" dir="ltr"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_33144">It seems hard, even today, to know clearly which reality is being pointed to with the term.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_30413" dir="ltr"><br></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32397"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_31144"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_32968">Jim Wiegel</a> <br><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_31143"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;line-height:18.3999996185303px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_31142">“If you want an adventure . . . what a time to be alive!”. 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</font><div>My memory holds that when we decided to work in India, and India did not want any more "Christian missionaries", the call to have a secular name and a secular task was too loud not to answer. I remember Joe Mathews talking about an "end run around the church".</div>
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To: Jim & Judy Wiegel <<a href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br clear="none">
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<div>Very good answer. I recall the extraordinary excitement of seeing Town Meetings and Community Forums be transformational.</div>
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<div>On Oct 2, 2016, at 11:40 PM, James Wiegel via OE <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">The Fifth City Project and, later human development projects and town meetings had a lot more visceral excitement for us than the slow work of congregational renewal. This might have been more particularly true for us younger, non clergy folks who came right after you all . . .</div>
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<div id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">The Local Church Experiment with Galaxies and all did not produce exciting enough results to be sustained, and we never got sufficiently strong and widespread support from the denominational heirarchies to keep it going. It may well also have been the case that the "risks" that the Galaxy leadership and clergy families in the order and movement sort of derailed their career prospects in Ecclesiastical circles.</div>
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<div id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">God chose fundamentalism and the charismatic approach over existential theology. I was struck, travelling cross country several years ago, on 2 lane highways, that it seems as though only the conservative churches have had heart and passion to root themselves in many local places. Music and broadcast christianity as well.</div>
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<div id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">With our focus on "globality", staying within the framework of Historical Christianity became increasingly relative as we engaged in countries not dominantly Christian</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">In looking at old documents, like the Declaration of the Spirit Movement, I can see one could say that the primary concern was to address the "cultural revolution of the 20th century", ("renewal of the church FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD")</div>
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<div id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14681">Even the contextual documents on the local church describe it as an anthropological phenomenon and not a Christian reality </div>
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<div id="yiv1823637705yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14681">From a practical (and economic) perspective, at some point, participation in RS-1 peaked and we needed something else to keep the "movement" moving. While we talked of ourselves as an "Order" -- Religious Order, Historical Order, Global Order, seems we depended a lot on keeping momentum going. Sustainability and slowness were less important than Expenditure and transformation.</div>
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<b>To:</b> James Wiegel <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br clear="none">
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<div>Why did the Order abandon the church?</div>
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<div>Spong's latest sure calls for what began lo these many years ago.</div>
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: James Wiegel via OE <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br clear="none">Date: 2016/10/02 5:14 PM (GMT-07:00) <br clear="none">To: Frank Knutson <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:f.knutson@earthlink.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:f.knutson@earthlink.net">f.knutson@earthlink.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical ICA-USA <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] THE DECLARATION OF THE SPIRIT MOVEMENT <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr"><span>like what is an example, Frank?</span></div>
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<div>Searching through old documents I found THE DECLARATION OF THE SPIRIT MOVEMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD IN CENTURY TWENTY. I am amazed, at over 50 years ago, how on target it is today. It provides a lot for today’s discussions.
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