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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Not sure what you are looking for, but might check out Living the Questions web site. They have a dvd based course called Painting the Stars: Science, Religion, and an Evolving Faith<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Troy Jarvis<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>George Holcombe via OE<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 22, 2016 8:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> ICA/OE List Serves; ICA/OE List Serves<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: prayer reflection<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>There was a time that Theology was regarded as the Queen of Science, but that lost ground when theologians began to look through telescopes and microscopes and the story of the universe began to change. Today theology and religion seem to be caught in a time warp trying to reinterpret the past for the “sake of the future.” Anyone know of where the science and theology community are exploring the present, and perhaps together? Rob Work posted a thought of his from several years back on his Facebook page today that may be a starting point. "</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D2129;letter-spacing:-.2pt;background:white'>What a stunning mystery! To be a conscious living being as part of a 13.8 billion year old universe with billions of more years to create, explore and experience! Who could ever have dreamed or made this up? And with only one thing to do – love it all, moment by moment, situation by situation, being by being. But how to do that with wisdom and skillful means, that is the question, the challenge, the calling." I wrote this on FB three years ago today. Still my experience. What do you think?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1D2129;letter-spacing:-.2pt'>”</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>George Holcombe<br>14900 Yellowleaf Tr.<br>Austin, TX 78728<br>Mobile 512/252-2756<br><a href="mailto:geowanda1@me.com">geowanda1@me.com</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>"Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 20, 2016, at 10:24 AM, H. A. Tillinghast via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bill I also like the quadrilateral. I also contend the Experience is central- though everyone disagrees with me. After all, the Scripture records the experience of the biblical writers and the Tradition records the experience of the church.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bud<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sep 20, 2016, at 3:54 PM, William Salmon via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Susan,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><em><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>et al</span></em>,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Something to consider. The wonderful thing about our personal experiences is that we all look at the same reality, but we bring to this task a set of prescription glasses (lenses?) that colors our perception of the reality we all experience. This makes the task a personal one.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> This is why the quadrilateral of John Wesley is helpful. Wesley believed we need to ask four questions about any task or conversation about that task: scripture, tradition, reason and experience. This provided those who use these four dynamics to be kept from being dilatants.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> The following paragraph will explain this process:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#555555;background:white'>The phrase which has relatively recently come into use to describe the principal factors that John Wesley believed illuminate the core of the Christian faith for the believer. Wesley did not formulate the succinct statement now commonly referred to as the Wesley Quadrilateral. Building on the Anglican theological tradition, Wesley added a fourth emphasis, experience. The resulting four components or "sides" of the quadrilateral are (1) Scripture, (2) tradition, (3) reason, and (4) experience. For United Methodists, Scripture is considered the primary source and standard for Christian doctrine. Tradition is experience and the witness of development and growth of the faith through the past centuries and in many nations and cultures. Experience is the individual's understanding and appropriating of the faith in the light of his or her own life. Through reason the individual Christian brings to bear on the Christian faith discerning and cogent thought. These four elements taken together bring the individual Christian to a mature and fulfilling understanding of the Christian faith and the required response of worship and service.</span></em><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;background:white'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>(Source: A Dictionary for United Methodists, Alan K. Waltz,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal align=right style='text-align:right;background:white'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Copyright 1991, Abingdon Press. Used by Permission.)</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> I like this and I use it often. It allows me to identify my personal experience, and then to measure my perceptions by the other dynamics; this keeps me from getting arrogant; the "selfy-age often strikes.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Weskey said that "scripture" was prime. However, there are those among us who affirm that "experience" could be prime and then supported or challenged by tradition, reason and the scriptures.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thanks for sharing.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Bill<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message -----<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" title="oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>Susan Fertig via OE</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au" title="isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au"><span style='color:purple'>Isobel and Jim Bishop</span></a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" title="oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>Order EcumenicalCommunity</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Monday, September 19, 2016 10:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Re: [Oe List ...] Listserve on prayer, 2-story universe, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>If we’re operating out of experience, mine is just different than yours. So, just as I’m not likely to change anybody’s mind on this listserv, none of the comments here are likely to change mine. I know what I know. I believe what I believe.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Someone actually accused people who believe what I believe of “shallowness” and “superstition.”<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Interesting that in my church of about 3,000 congregants, some of the greatest minds in a city rife with intellect, scientific or from other disciplines, engage with God in a way you’d all probably laugh about. But of course we are all deficient intellectually in the minds of people who have dismissed this way of looking at relationship with God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Superstition is avoiding black cats and walking under ladders. It bears no resemblance to my faith.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My experience of the other world is as real as my hand in front of my face.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808'>Susan</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#080808'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808'>Susan Fertig-Dykes</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808'>(personal email account)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus'>And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#080808'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#080808'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Protect against email address harvesting:<br>Use "BCC" when sending to multiple addresses;<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>delete senders’ E-Mail addresses when forwarding.</span><span style='font-size:9.0pt'><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.0pt'>NOTE: I won’t be offended if you ask me to remove you from my emails.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#080808'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>OE [<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Isobel and Jim Bishop via OE<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, September 19, 2016 10:27 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Jack Gilles <<a href="mailto:jackcgilles@gmail.com"><span style='color:purple'>jackcgilles@gmail.com</span></a>>; Order Ecumenical Community <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Oe List ...] Listserve on prayer, 2-story universe, etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Isobel and Jim Bishop</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au"><span style='color:purple'>isobeljimbish@optusnet.com.au</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Dear Folks, especially Jack, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I too am grateful that the list serve is still ticking over! I have observed over the years I have been reading this listserve- that in the summer months in the northern hemisphere- you all are quieter, and don' t engage so much.. I have always thought to myself </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>that this is because you like to be outdoors, enjoying your summer….? In the winter months when you don' t go out so much, you seem to stay by your computer more often and write pearls of wisdom….Just my observation from down here in Oz.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Yes, I listened to Joe's lecture and it brought back so many memories. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I thought he described the two storey universe well. I hope that Susan found it useful. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Nowadays I think what Joe was saying to me-- can best be described as the connectedness of ALL of life- both at the very centre of my life, and in the cosmos, and in the urban, secular everyday life of connecting with the world and all that is within it. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>… and at the edges too. ...the farthest reaches of the planet. I did notice that the last few words of Joe's talk included ' all of Creation itself.' This made me realise that Joe was way ahead of his time, talking about Creation….</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>A word about prayer… Some time ago, on the list serve there was some reference to prayer- and Jim Weigel gave a small description of it- as ' leaning to the good'. I don't know if this helps others, but it helped me at the time, and I still reflect on these </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>words. I do feel that good vibes which I empathise about a situation; can bring gentleness and calmness to a situation, be it a person, or a situation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Enough from me from Leichhardt, an inner west suburb of Sydney. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Jim is well- has just had had both his caratacts renewed, and will be 87 next month. I am 80, and still very active. We do lots of walking and exercises etc., </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Our daughter Rebecca, a US citizen, will be voting again in your Election, I reckon. It is quite scary from this viewpoint. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>All the best to y'all,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>and with grace, peace, and love, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>from Isobel. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On 20/09/2016, at 1:57 AM, Jack Gilles via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>There should be a request to share the ability to open. But if you see a ‘download’ arrow, do that and then download the link that allows you to listen to Goole.doc sound tracks. I couldn’t open my post as well, but I did that and it plays just fine. It opens another window with the player. I hope others find that works for them as well.<br><br>Jack<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'>On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:54, Doris Hahn via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style='color:purple'>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>> wrote:<br><br>I tried to access Jack's sharing of JWM on 2-story universe, but it is locked. 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