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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If we’re operating out of experience, mine is just different than yours. So, just as I’m not likely to change anybody’s mind on this listserv, none of the comments here are
likely to change mine. I know what I know. I believe what I believe. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Someone actually accused people who believe what I believe of “shallowness” and “superstition.”
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Interesting that in my church of about 3,000 congregants, some of the greatest minds in a city rife with intellect, scientific or from other disciplines, engage with God in
a way you’d all probably laugh about. But of course we are all deficient intellectually in the minds of people who have dismissed this way of looking at relationship with God, and Christ, and the Holy Spirit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Superstition is avoiding black cats and walking under ladders. It bears no resemblance to my faith.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">My experience of the other world is as real as my hand in front of my face.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:Papyrus;color:#080808">Susan<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Protect against email address harvesting:<br>
Use "BCC" when sending to multiple addresses; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">delete senders’ E-Mail addresses when forwarding.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;color:black">NOTE: I won’t be offended if you ask me to remove you from my emails.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> OE [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Isobel and Jim Bishop via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 19, 2016 10:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jack Gilles <jackcgilles@gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Oe List ...] Listserve on prayer, 2-story universe, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I too am grateful that the list serve is still ticking over! I have observed over the years I have been reading this listserve- that in the summer months in
the northern hemisphere- you all are quieter, and don' t engage so much.. I have always thought to myself <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">that this is because you like to be outdoors, enjoying your summer….? In the winter months when you don' t go out so much, you seem to stay by your computer more
often and write pearls of wisdom….Just my observation from down here in Oz.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Yes, I listened to Joe's lecture and it brought back so many memories. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I thought he described the two storey universe well. I hope that Susan found it useful. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Nowadays I think what Joe was saying to me-- can best be described as the connectedness of ALL of life- both at the very centre of my life, and in the cosmos,
and in the urban, secular everyday life of connecting with the world and all that is within it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">… and at the edges too. ...the farthest reaches of the planet. I did notice that the last few words of Joe's talk included ' all of Creation itself.' This
made me realise that Joe was way ahead of his time, talking about Creation….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">A word about prayer… Some time ago, on the list serve there was some reference to prayer- and Jim Weigel gave a small description of it- as ' leaning to the
good'. I don't know if this helps others, but it helped me at the time, and I still reflect on these <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">words. I do feel that good vibes which I empathise about a situation; can bring gentleness and calmness to a situation, be it a person, or a situation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Enough from me from Leichhardt, an inner west suburb of Sydney. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 20/09/2016, at 1:57 AM, Jack Gilles via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There should be a request to share the ability to open. But if you see a ‘download’ arrow, do that and then download the link that allows you to listen to Goole.doc sound tracks. I couldn’t open my post as well, but I did that and it plays
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 19, 2016, at 10:54, Doris Hahn via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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I tried to access Jack's sharing of JWM on 2-story universe, but it is locked. How do I get in?<br>
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