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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Dear All--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> A last word? Not possible.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> I've used this process since my
Academy in 1972. In order for people not to get my work confused with OE/ICA, I
baptized the system as the, "Deep Drilling Process." Same Baby, just different
color." </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Does it get the job done? That
seems to me to be the question that needs answering. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> However, this has been an
interesting history lesson. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Now what?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Bill </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oe@lists.wedgeblade.net href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">Seth
Longacre via OE</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=sunwalker@comcast.net
href="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net">Sunny Walker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=oe@lists.wedgeblade.net
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 14, 2015 10:44
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] I heard it on
the grapevine,Steve Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I’m pretty sure that quote was actually used when I was taught
the artform method in my Academy. 1979.
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<DIV>On 14 Dec, 2015, at 16:32 , Sunny Walker via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>>
wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline>
<DIV>Surprising that none have mentioned ( unless I missed it) good ole
Kierkegaard. In searching for the actual vs . remembered quote, I ran across
this link, only to discover how profoundly I agree with him.<BR><BR><A
href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/6172.S_ren_Kierkegaard">https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/6172.S_ren_Kierkegaard</A><BR><BR>The
arrows diagram frequently used with ORID always reminds me of this
Kierkegaard quote:<BR><BR>[...the self] by relating itself to its own self
and by willing to be itself the self is grounded transparently in the Power
which posited it.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile
App<BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>From:
oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<BR>To: rev.bud@mac.com<BR>Cc:
oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<BR>Sent: 2015-12-14 08:46:59 GMT<BR>Subject: Re: [Oe
List ...] I heard it on the grapevine, Steve Ediger asked a compelling
question yesterday<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Not that I've ever heard of :-) / Cheers, Sherwood<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>One other note: ORID is both a theoretical framework for looking at the
world and the sequence for writing questions in a conversation - by what
ever name. <BR></DIV>
<DIV>For example as a framework for a business meeting (agenda):<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">O - Information sharing, project updates 15
min<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">R - Personal updates - How ya
doing...how is your team making out? 10 min<BR></DIV>
<DIV style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">I - Current issues and tasks for
the coming week - 30 min <BR></DIV>
<DIV style="PADDING-LEFT: 30px">D - Each person's top action
items - 5 min.<BR></DIV>
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total time - 60 min<BR></DIV>
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</B>"H. A. Tillinghast via OE" <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><BR><B>To:
</B>"Jo Nelson" <jnelson@ica-associates.ca><BR><B>Cc:
</B>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, December 14, 2015
7:39:42 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine,
Steve Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Do the terms ORID, Art Form Method, and Art Form Conversation
come into being as they intersect the triad of knowing, doing, being?
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<DIV>Bud</DIV>
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<DIV>On Dec 13, 2015, at 4:48 PM, Jo Nelson via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>>
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way we teach this in our facilitation courses is that ORID is the
underlying contentless thinking method, and the Focused Conversation is
the tool based on it to guide a group to think clearly. </DIV>
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<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>W. J. via OE <<A
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Janet Sanders <<A
href="mailto:janetasanders@hotmail.com">janetasanders@hotmail.com</A>>;
"<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>"
<<A
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Sunday, December 13, 2015 7:19
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Oe List ...] FW: I heard
it on the grapevine, Steve Ediger asked a compelling question
yesterday<BR></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV id=yiv7356922214yui_3_16_0_1_1449999336064_17587><SPAN
id=yiv7356922214yui_3_16_0_1_1449999336064_17586>There is a paper by
Susanne Langer in the Psychology and Art course of the RS/CS curriculum,
titled 'Art as Living Form.' It was taught in the Academy (third week).
It might have been a handout in CS-I as well.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr id=yiv7356922214yui_3_16_0_1_1449999336064_17588>It is not
on the Golden Pathways.<SPAN><BR clear=none></SPAN></DIV>
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id=yiv7356922214yui_3_16_0_1_1449999336064_17588>Langer's<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I
id=yiv7356922214yui_3_16_0_1_1449999336064_18571>Problems of
Art</I><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>is listed in
'foundational works' of the academy curriculum. Her book<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><I>Philosophy in a New
Key</I><SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>was on a longer
list as I recall.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: small">On
Friday, December 11, 2015 8:26 PM, Janet Sanders via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>>
wrote:<BR clear=none></SPAN></DIV><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR clear=none>I sent this out yesterday, but not certain
it made it into the discussion. Jan <BR clear=none><BR
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From:<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:janetasanders@hotmail.com">janetasanders@hotmail.com</A><BR
clear=none>To:<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:randycw1938@gmail.com">randycw1938@gmail.com</A>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:laurelcg@aol.com">laurelcg@aol.com</A>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:ica-dialogue@igc.topica.com">ica-dialogue@igc.topica.com</A><BR
clear=none>Subject: RE: [Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine, Steve
Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday<BR clear=none>Date: Fri, 11
Dec 2015 08:32:04 -0500<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
<DIV dir=ltr>Hello to all,
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<DIV>In 1971, I took my first course with the EI/ICA called Imaginal
Education. I walked into the empty seminar room to get a feel for
the space. As I walked around the tables all laid out so
intentionally, I vividly remember thinking, "My life will never be the
same." </DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>44 years later, I am still in dialogue with the wisdom of that
gathering. I was particularily fascinated with with was called the
Art Form conversation. At that point the pedagogues talked about
it being inspired by Susan Langer's work. </DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>It wasn't until this year that I went looking for Susan's work.
I'm attaching and also sending a link for an article of
appreciation by Howard Gardner for her work. <A
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"
href="http://www.anthonyflood.com/gardnerlanger.htm" shape=rect
rel=nofollow>http://www.anthonyflood.com/gardnerlanger.htm</A>
She was using art forms to explore the world of meaning.
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,102); FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR
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<DIV><B
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(0,0,102); FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From<I> Art,
Mind, and Brain: A Cognitive Approach to Creativity, </I>New York,
Basic Books, 1982, 48-54.</SPAN></B>
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align=center><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; COLOR: #990033; FONT-SIZE: large"><I>Philosophy
in a New Key</I> Revisited: An Appreciation of Susanne
Langer</SPAN></H1>
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clear=none><BR clear=none><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>Janet A.
Sanders<BR clear=none></DIV><BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 06:42:34 -0600<BR clear=none>To:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:laurelcg@aol.com">laurelcg@aol.com</A><BR
clear=none>CC:<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:ica-dialogue@igc.topica.com">ica-dialogue@igc.topica.com</A>;<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A><BR
clear=none>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] I heard it on the grapevine, Steve
Ediger asked a compelling question yesterday<BR clear=none>From:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A><BR
clear=none><BR clear=none>
<DIV>The art form has a lot of similarity to Dietrich Bonhoeffer's
process for making responsible decisions: observe, judge, weigh-up,
decide, act </DIV>
<DIV id=yiv7356922214ecxAppleMailSignature>Randy</DIV>
<DIV id=yiv7356922214ecxAppleMailSignature><BR clear=none>Sent from my
iPad
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<DIV><BR clear=none>On Dec 11, 2015, at 12:03 AM, via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" shape=rect
rel=nofollow>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>> wrote:<BR clear=none><BR
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<DIV>In the mid-80's, Gene Marshall published a binder
with different conversation and workshop methods spelled out, for
use by<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>House
Churches</B>. Think I still have my copy in the garage.</DIV>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV>Jann McGuire<BR clear=none><BR clear=none></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR clear=none>From: Sherwood Shankland via OE <<A
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" shape=rect
rel=nofollow>oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>><BR clear=none>To: Ken
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Ecumenical Community <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
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Thu, Dec 10, 2015 7:04 pm<BR clear=none>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] I
heard it on the grapevine, Steve Ediger asked a compelling question
yesterday<BR clear=none><BR clear=none>
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<DIV>A few notes on "art-form" and ORID conversations...In the
60's and 70's the Ecumenical Institute and its faculty from the Faith
and Life community at UT Austin, conducted conversation about the
impact of works of art. Notably Picaso's Guernica - impressions of
saturation bombing; and the film Requim for a Heavyweight staring
Anthony Quinn as the washed up boxer who decides that even he can live
his life... The focus of these two conversations was not to teach
anything directly but rather to allow the participants of the RS-I
(Religious Studies - I seminar) to experience their experience of the
painting and the film. As pedegogs we were listening to the
participants' responses for their theological views, which could guide
us in guiding the following sessions of the 44 hour weekend
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<DIV>I'm not sure when we formulated the ORID format - Marylin Olyer
should know :-) but I associate ORID with our formalizing of
facilitator skills training courses and the manuals for Group
Facilitation Methods (now ToP Facilitation Methods) and Participatory
Strategic Planning (now ToP Strategic Planning). Personally I think
that the earlier titles / branding "GFM" and "PSP" are much more
self-descriptive and clearer for marketing purposes. I suppose we
could use both: "ToP - Group Facilitation Methods"; and "ToP -
Participatory Strategic Planning".<SPAN
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<DIV>Happy Holidays to All.../ Sherwood (on the road facilitating
workshop on agricultural development in Kazakhstan and
Kyrgykstan...back home Dec 18th.)<SPAN
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Community" <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" shape=rect
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6:59:28 AM<BR clear=none><B>Subject:<SPAN
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it on the
grapevine, Steve Ediger
asked a compelling question yesterday<BR clear=none>
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>Me: “Where did the art form methodology come
from?<BR clear=none>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>David McKlesky: “Rudolf Bultman.
This is his method of scriptural grounding.”<BR clear=none>
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV><BR clear=none>On Dec 10, 2015, at 6:09 PM,
steve har via OE <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>from the point of view of Imaginal Education
and Imaginal Learning.<SPAN
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>As I heard it, he asked<BR clear=none>Is
there a difference between an Art Form Conversation and ORID question
- and- someone just mentioned a "spirit question".<BR clear=none>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>What is the difference between an art form
conversation, an ORID conversation, a spirit question?<SPAN
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>Jan Sanders, I know, was recently
asked by her teachers and principles at Aruba University why the
conversation was called "art form" conversation.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR clear=none>It sent her
looking back into Brian Stanfield's work and Susan Langer's cultural
mythology and meaning making.<BR clear=none>
<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>Does someone have a generous answer?<SPAN
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<DIV><BR clear=none></DIV>--<SPAN
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