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1. Re: [Dialogue] Breakfast News Conversations... (steve har via OE)<br>
2. in a reflective mood today (Del Morrill via OE)<br>
3. Deciding the future; and Imaginal Ed "presence"<br>
(Marilyn Crocker via OE)<br>
4. "Journey Reflection" Blog Review (August 2015)<br>
(John P Cock via OE)<br>
5. FW: "Journey Reflection" Blog Review (August 2015)<br>
(John P Cock via OE)<br>
6. Re: in a reflective mood today (Marsha Hahn via OE)<br>
7. Re: [Dialogue] Breakfast News Conversations... (via OE)<br>
8. "Local Church" (LC-1, etc.) Geneva Offices (David Dunn via OE)<br>
9. HDP Photos (Frank Knutson via OE)<br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 13:02:17 -0500<br>
From: steve har via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: "W. J." <<a href="mailto:synergi@yahoo.com">synergi@yahoo.com</a>><br>
Cc: "<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>,<br>
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Jack Gilles quoted earlier this tread said that the "D" in ORID has<br>
disappeared.<br>
<br>
"D" might just as well stand for disaster or maybe a "dumpster" for the<br>
seemingly un-ending list of issues, crisis's and interpretations in this<br>
world.<br>
Do you know where your "D's" are?<br>
<br>
It seems like the "I's" - the interpretations - are trying to say into<br>
existence some stance with which to engage.<br>
<br>
---<br>
In the Imaginal Education course stance was called "attitude"<br>
<br>
<br>
Attitude was about having place to stand -"to be" in the world", to be a<br>
self with a past history and future to decide as a free human being. See<br>
this photo image: <a href="https://goo.gl/photos/sD8E79aA4D7K584R6" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/photos/sD8E79aA4D7K584R6</a>.<br>
<br>
Bill Salmon and I had some fun trying to write a little about those old<br>
board images and try to bring them to life in the 21st Century. He's a<br>
pretty good writer, by the way -short and straight.<br>
<br>
Attitude was an essential part of actually having a place to stand in the<br>
-then education crisis of the times - and still have something to have some<br>
vitality to offer any learner 5th City Preschool student, or a Training Inc<br>
student...RS1 CS1 LENS, it didn't seem to matter.<br>
<br>
David Scott describes in an Archives oral history interview the same basic<br>
sense of things.<br>
<br>
He and his wife and the Fishels as new members of the Order met in a PSU<br>
and developed the Summer 65 for 50 young college students, pastors, and<br>
metro cadres. It was right after he and others left the Selma march and<br>
Martin Luther King...to drive to the West Side of Chicago.<br>
<br>
What was this stance or attitude stuff about?<br>
One sense of having a stance or attitude was you were actually "being in<br>
the game" of your own free will, not being "in the stands" spectating,<br>
opining, booing and cheering the play in someone Else's game.<br>
<br>
--<br>
On a more personal note, now being in the game, being in Phase 4 and being<br>
not far from the end of my own game is different now.<br>
<br>
When I play, more often it is something like hide and seek with my young<br>
grand-daughter, Indi, she always wants to be in the play of the game. She<br>
is not interested in watching and spectating.<br>
<br>
Indi doesn't even want to keep score...she just wants a chance to play<br>
full-out and whole hearted. She is clever at finding! She knows how to help<br>
people find a place in the game...says, you go hide Grandpa, so I do!<br>
<br>
I'm the one learning to be in this game, she is the teacher, she keeps the<br>
play of the game. It is serious fun and new and altogether.<br>
<br>
Once in a while I bounce her on my knee and tell her stories of people<br>
hiding, then seeking then finding their way from my world. And I show her<br>
her iPad like this one of a friend of teachers and children learning new<br>
things: <a href="https://goo.gl/photos/9qTepcXCFs9FDzUx6" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/photos/9qTepcXCFs9FDzUx6</a>.<br>
A friend that she knows goes there to help once in a while.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Soon we're going to launch "Imaginal Inquiry" -a place to introduce people<br>
to Imaginal Educational materials available from the Archives Online. You<br>
can see the Twitter site here: <a href="https://twitter.com/*50newqs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/*50newqs</a> *and follow if<br>
you like.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:49:17 -0700<br>
From: Del Morrill via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: "Order Ecumenical " <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Oe List ...] in a reflective mood today<br>
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Dear ones,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Yesterday was a memorial service in Wenatchee, Washington (across the<br>
mountains from us) for the three firefighters who died in wildfire fighting<br>
(got trapped). These men remind me of all those people who choose jobs in<br>
which our own safety depends, at risk of life - hard on families, yet how<br>
seldom do I take note of their sacrifice unless something tragic hits the<br>
news. How many fire fighters, rangers, police, etc., have died in efforts<br>
to keep us safe? How many reporters have risked their lives to keep us<br>
aware of what's happening in the world? Many have died in that effort.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
And I think this morning, as well of the "silent ones" who work at jobs that<br>
carry risk, but probably get no real public recognition - workers on highway<br>
construction who are hit by careless drivers; the ones who clean up after<br>
storms and try to restore services by handling hot lines; coal diggers who<br>
have died so we could have heat and all the rest that comes from that<br>
mineral; tunnel diggers and bridge builders, so our cars could get somewhere<br>
faster; and so many others that I probably have never heard of. They may<br>
have merited a line or two in the paper, or given no recognition at all<br>
except by family members and a few friends.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I sit here in my warm, dry, comfortable home aware that, despite rain AT<br>
LAST, after an exceptionally dry year here, there are still fires not<br>
controlled in this area, and in so many other places in our country - which<br>
means there are many more who continue to risk their lives for our sakes.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Then, along with remembering the death of 3, the same paper this morning<br>
reports the death of a child, killed in her own bedroom while doing<br>
homework, from a stray bullet by a gun fired outside. A recent statistic<br>
states that, in the USA, there have been more deaths by guns than in ALL of<br>
the wars and other conflicts in which our nation has participated! Men (and<br>
women) are fighting natural disasters like fires today, but how do we fight<br>
this particular disaster?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
With affection,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Del<br>
<br>
Change of any sort requires courage.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:09:14 -0400<br>
From: Marilyn Crocker via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: "'steve har'" <<a href="mailto:stevehar11201@gmail.com">stevehar11201@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
Subject: [Oe List ...] Deciding the future; and Imaginal Ed "presence"<br>
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Hi Steve,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I?m guessing that the disappearance of the Decisional (if that is actually the case), is because in our wider culture, folks are not trained to journey (aka facilitate) conversations from the objective, to the reflective to the interpretive possibilities and then step back to invite possible next steps, decisions, the ?so what?s?. I see this capacity lack everywhere ? in the mainstream media interviewers, educational leaders from local to national, church leaders on all levels, etc. It?s not their fault ? they?ve just not been trained/enlightened.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Re: your ruminations on ?attitude? in Imaginal Education. My recollection from the Summer ?66 Teacher?s Cadre and subsequent elaborations on those key understandings was that the imaginal educator decided to stand as a presence of the Word: all is Good; all of my past is Accepted; all that I am is Received; all of the future is OPEN and filled with Possibility.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
That stance was grounded (in life the way it is), disciplined (chosen by me, over and over and over again); corporate (shared by a primal community whose support I can count on); and risk-averse/ sacrificial (willing by me to walk over the proverbial 1000 fathoms of jello without flinching to do what is needed for the larger good).<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
At the end of Summer ?66 so many of us dispersed to ?explode? in our curriculum (as we talked about it then) images of the many dimensions of the Word, noted above.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Some went to Marshall High, some to Leif Erikson Elementary, some like Jim Campbell and Rob and I to universities in PA and NH, many to other comparable places. And we committed, upon being sent out ?to be the presence.? I?m not sure where the category of ?attitude? crept in, but ?presence? is what I have seen over the years in the life and work of my alums from Summer ?66; Kaye Ent Lush, Marilyn Miller Oyler, Ann Harrison Avery, Gordon Harper, Nancy Simms, Jim Campbell, Jeff ____(RC priest from 5th City); Jerry _____; Judi Weigel (Jim?s sister, not his wife); Robertson Work; Betsy ______ ; Marilyn Miller Crocker (me) and many others that my memory eludes.<br>
<br>
<br>
So, these are my two cents re: the foundations, as I experienced them in Summer ?66, of the Imaginal Education Teachers Academy, taught by the mentors who shaped many of our lives/values/life understanding for decades thereafter: Donna McCleskey (Lidona Wagner); Pat Scott (d.); and Sue Burdick. May these mentors be recognized and celebrated by our whole Order for ever and ever.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Grace and peace,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Marilyn Crocker<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: OE [mailto:<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>] On Behalf Of steve har via OE<br>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 2:02 PM<br>
To: W. J.<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>; <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Breakfast News Conversations...<br>
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<br>
<br>
Jack Gilles quoted earlier this tread said that the "D" in ORID has disappeared.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"D" might just as well stand for disaster or maybe a "dumpster" for the seemingly un-ending list of issues, crisis's and interpretations in this world.<br>
<br>
Do you know where your "D's" are?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It seems like the "I's" - the interpretations - are trying to say into existence some stance with which to engage.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
<br>
In the Imaginal Education course stance was called "attitude"<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Attitude was about having place to stand -"to be" in the world", to be a self with a past history and future to decide as a free human being. See this photo image: <a href="https://goo.gl/photos/sD8E79aA4D7K584R6" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/photos/sD8E79aA4D7K584R6</a>.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Bill Salmon and I had some fun trying to write a little about those old board images and try to bring them to life in the 21st Century. He's a pretty good writer, by the way -short and straight.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Attitude was an essential part of actually having a place to stand in the -then education crisis of the times - and still have something to have some vitality to offer any learner 5th City Preschool student, or a Training Inc student...RS1 CS1 LENS, it didn't seem to matter.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
David Scott describes in an Archives oral history interview the same basic sense of things.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
He and his wife and the Fishels as new members of the Order met in a PSU and developed the Summer 65 for 50 young college students, pastors, and metro cadres. It was right after he and others left the Selma march and Martin Luther King...to drive to the West Side of Chicago.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What was this stance or attitude stuff about?<br>
<br>
One sense of having a stance or attitude was you were actually "being in the game" of your own free will, not being "in the stands" spectating, opining, booing and cheering the play in someone Else's game.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
On a more personal note, now being in the game, being in Phase 4 and being not far from the end of my own game is different now.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
When I play, more often it is something like hide and seek with my young grand-daughter, Indi, she always wants to be in the play of the game. She is not interested in watching and spectating.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Indi doesn't even want to keep score...she just wants a chance to play full-out and whole hearted. She is clever at finding! She knows how to help people find a place in the game...says, you go hide Grandpa, so I do!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I'm the one learning to be in this game, she is the teacher, she keeps the play of the game. It is serious fun and new and altogether.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Once in a while I bounce her on my knee and tell her stories of people hiding, then seeking then finding their way from my world. And I show her her iPad like this one of a friend of teachers and children learning new things: <a href="https://goo.gl/photos/9qTepcXCFs9FDzUx6" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/photos/9qTepcXCFs9FDzUx6</a>.<br>
<br>
A friend that she knows goes there to help once in a while.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
<br>
Soon we're going to launch "Imaginal Inquiry" -a place to introduce people to Imaginal Educational materials available from the Archives Online. You can see the Twitter site here: <a href="https://twitter.com/50newqs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/50newqs</a> and follow if you like.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:09:14 -0400<br>
From: John P Cock via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Oe List ...] "Journey Reflection" Blog Review (August 2015)<br>
Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:D20A0F02.A01B%25jpc2025@triad.rr.com">D20A0F02.A01B%jpc2025@triad.rr.com</a>><br>
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Colleagues and friends,<br>
<br>
Enjoy this month?s most read blog posts: ?Journey Reflection? Blog Review<br>
(August 2015)<br>
<<a href="http://rejourney.blogspot.com/2015/08/journey-reflection-blog-review-august" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://rejourney.blogspot.com/2015/08/journey-reflection-blog-review-august</a><br>
_31.%20%D2Journey%20Reflection%D3%20Blog%20Post%20(August%202015)> .<br>
<br>
Journey on,<br>
<br>
John & Lynda Cock<br>
____________________<br>
<br>
>Daily Blog: ?Journey Reflection? at this link ><br>
Google: <a href="http://www.reJourney.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.reJourney.blogspot.com</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.rejourney.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rejourney.blogspot.com/</a>><br>
<br>
>Web Page: <a href="http://www.transcribebooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.transcribebooks.com</a> <<a href="http://www.transcribebooks.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.transcribebooks.com/</a>><br>
<br>
>Books: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock/e/B001K8Y5KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock/e/B001K8Y5KW</a>><br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:15:55 -0400<br>
From: John P Cock via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Subject: [Oe List ...] FW: "Journey Reflection" Blog Review (August<br>
2015)<br>
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Colleagues and friends,<br>
<br>
Enjoy this month?s most read blog posts: ?Journey Reflection? (August 2015)<br>
<<a href="http://rejourney.blogspot.com/2015/08/journey-reflection-blog-review-august
_31.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://rejourney.blogspot.com/2015/08/journey-reflection-blog-review-august<br>
_31.html</a>> .<br>
<br>
<br>
Journey on,<br>
<br>
John & Lynda Cock<br>
____________________<br>
<br>
>Daily Blog: ?Journey Reflection? at this link ><br>
Google: <a href="http://www.reJourney.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.reJourney.blogspot.com</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.rejourney.blogspot.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.rejourney.blogspot.com/</a>><br>
<br>
>Web Page: <a href="http://www.transcribebooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.transcribebooks.com</a> <<a href="http://www.transcribebooks.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.transcribebooks.com/</a>><br>
<br>
>Books: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock</a><br>
<<a href="http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock/e/B001K8Y5KW" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/John-P.-Cock/e/B001K8Y5KW</a>><br>
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:25:17 -0500<br>
From: Marsha Hahn via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: Del Morrill <<a href="mailto:delhmor@wamail.net">delhmor@wamail.net</a>><br>
Cc: Order Ecumenical <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] in a reflective mood today<br>
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Thank you, Del. It is very good to be reminded of the people whose efforts we so easily take for granted. I really appreciate you taking the time to share this reflection.<br>
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Marsha<br>
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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Del Morrill via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Yesterday was a memorial service in Wenatchee, Washington (across the mountains from us) for the three firefighters who died in wildfire fighting (got trapped). These men remind me of all those people who choose jobs in which our own safety depends, at risk of life ? hard on families, yet how seldom do I take note of their sacrifice unless something tragic hits the news. How many fire fighters, rangers, police, etc., have died in efforts to keep us safe? How many reporters have risked their lives to keep us aware of what?s happening in the world? Many have died in that effort.<br>
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> And I think this morning, as well of the ?silent ones? who work at jobs that carry risk, but probably get no real public recognition ? workers on highway construction who are hit by careless drivers; the ones who clean up after storms and try to restore services by handling hot lines; coal diggers who have died so we could have heat and all the rest that comes from that mineral; tunnel diggers and bridge builders, so our cars could get somewhere faster; and so many others that I probably have never heard of. They may have merited a line or two in the paper, or given no recognition at all except by family members and a few friends.<br>
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> I sit here in my warm, dry, comfortable home aware that, despite rain AT LAST, after an exceptionally dry year here, there are still fires not controlled in this area, and in so many other places in our country ? which means there are many more who continue to risk their lives for our sakes.<br>
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> Then, along with remembering the death of 3, the same paper this morning reports the death of a child, killed in her own bedroom while doing homework, from a stray bullet by a gun fired outside. A recent statistic states that, in the USA, there have been more deaths by guns than in ALL of the wars and other conflicts in which our nation has participated! Men (and women) are fighting natural disasters like fires today, but how do we fight this particular disaster?<br>
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> With affection,<br>
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> Del<br>
> Change of any sort requires courage.<br>
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Message: 7<br>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:06:15 -0400<br>
From: via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:stevehar11201@gmail.com">stevehar11201@gmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:synergi@yahoo.com">synergi@yahoo.com</a><br>
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Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Breakfast News<br>
Conversations...<br>
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I don't know what it means that the Decisional step in ORID has disappeared. We are left with a decision if we reflect on and interpret the objective events of our lives and times. Is it that, in instructional or facilitating situations we don't push participants for a decision?<br>
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My bilingual education mentor was Alma Flor Ada. She'd fled Castro's Cuba to live in Chile for a time. Her mentor was Paulo Freire, who had fled Brazil to live in Chile. She invited me to a seminar with him when she taught at Univ. of San Francisco in the 80's. What a privilege!<br>
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The method she taught and used in her textbooks was very similar to ORID. She called the last step "Creative" rather than "Decisional". I like it. Whether Decision or Creativity, we're stuck with that last step.<br>
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Blessings,<br>
Jann<br>
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From: steve har via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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Jack Gilles quoted earlier this tread said that the "D" in ORID has disappeared.<br>
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"D" might just as well stand for disaster or maybe a "dumpster" for the seemingly un-ending list of issues, crisis's and interpretations in this world.<br>
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Do you know where your "D's" are?<br>
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It seems like the " I's" - the interpretations - are trying to say into existence some stance with which to engage.<br>
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In the Imaginal Education course stance was called "attitude"<br>
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Attitude was about having place to stand -"to be" in the world", to be a self with a past history and future to decide as a free human being. See this photo image: <a href="https://goo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo</a>. gl/photos/sD8E79aA4D7K584R6.<br>
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Bill Salmon and I had some fun trying to write a little about those old board images and try to bring them to life in the 21st Century. He's a pretty good writer, by the way -short and straight.<br>
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Attitude was an essential part of actually having a place to stand in the -then education crisis of the times - and still have something to have some vitality to offer any learner 5th City Preschool student, or a Training Inc student...RS1 CS1 LENS, it didn't seem to matter.<br>
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David Scott describes in an Archives oral history interview the same basic sense of things.<br>
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He and his wife and the Fishels as new members of the Order met in a PSU and developed the Summer 65 for 50 young college students, pastors, and metro cadres. It was right after he and others left the Selma march and Martin Luther King...to drive to the West Side of Chicago.<br>
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What was this stance or attitude stuff about?<br>
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One sense of having a stance or attitude was you were actually "being in the game" of your own free will, not being "in the stands" spectating, opining, booing and cheering the play in someone Else's game.<br>
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On a more personal note, now being in the game, being in Phase 4 and being not far from the end of my own game is different now.<br>
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When I play, more often it is something like hide and seek with my young grand-daughter, Indi, she always wants to be in the play of the game. She is not interested in watching and spectating.<br>
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Indi doesn't even want to keep score...she just wants a chance to play full-out and whole hearted. She is clever at finding! She knows how to help people find a place in the game...says, you go hide Grandpa, so I do!<br>
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I'm the one learning to be in this game, she is the teacher, she keeps the play of the game. It is serious fun and new and altogether.<br>
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Once in a while I bounce her on my knee and tell her stories of people hiding, then seeking then finding their way from my world. And I show her her iPad like this one of a friend of teachers and children learning new things: <a href="https://goo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://goo</a>. gl/photos/9qTepcXCFs9FDzUx6.<br>
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A friend that she knows goes there to help once in a while.<br>
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Soon we're going to launch " Imaginal Inquiry" -a place to introduce people to Imaginal Educational materials available from the Archives Online. You can see the Twitter site here: <a href="https://twitter.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/</a> 50newqs and follow if you like.<br>
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Message: 8<br>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 16:10:24 -0600<br>
From: David Dunn via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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Subject: [Oe List ...] "Local Church" (LC-1, etc.) Geneva Offices<br>
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'Hi colleagues.<br>
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Were the adaptions of the classic Geneva Office marked "LC-1," etc. prepared for the Local Church Experiment? Anyone remember when and who worked on these?<br>
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The LC-1 office is online at <a href="http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/GenevaOffices" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/GenevaOffices</a> <<a href="http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/GenevaOffices" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/GenevaOffices</a>><br>
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Thanks for any input.<br>
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"Mystery, possibility, and the power to choose"<br>
[read and share on David's blog?<a href="http://www.spiritjourneys.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.spiritjourneys.org</a>]<br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:55:18 -0700<br>
From: Frank Knutson via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>
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Subject: [Oe List ...] HDP Photos<br>
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The Archive Project is attempting to put together extensive documentation of the Original 24 Human Development Projects. We are lacking, or have very few, photos of the following projects. If you have any photos please send them to: Frank Knutson <a href="mailto:f.knutson@earthlink.net">f.knutson@earthlink.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:f.knutson@earthlink.net">f.knutson@earthlink.net</a>> or if too numerous you can mail them to Frank at:<br>
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Frank Knutson<br>
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Please add any information to ID the photos, specific project, names, etc.<br>
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2 OYUBARI, JAPAN<br>
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4 KWANGYUNG IL, SOUTH KOREA<br>
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5 SUDTONGGAN, PHILIPPINES<br>
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6 HAI OU, TAIWAN<br>
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7 NAM WAI, HONG KONG<br>
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13 SHANTUMBU, ZAMBIA<br>
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14 TERMINIE, ITALY<br>
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15 KREUZBERG OST, BERLIN<br>
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18 CANO NEGRO, VENEZUALA<br>
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19 IVY CITY, WASHINGTON DC<br>
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20 LORNE DE L'ACADIE, CANADA<br>
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22 DELTA PACE, MISSISSIPPI<br>
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23 INYAN WAKAGAPI, NORTH DAKOTA<br>
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24 VOGAR, CANADA<br>
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