<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>Good dialog. On Thrs. blog post from David Korten (via Randy), talking about the radical new story needed.</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> George Holcombe via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> George Holcombe <<a href="mailto:geowanda1@me.com">geowanda1@me.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, August 11, 2015 at 9:55 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Randy Williams <<a href="mailto:randycw1938@gmail.com">randycw1938@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Jaime Vergara <<a href="mailto:wangzhimu2031@aol.com">wangzhimu2031@aol.com</a>>, ICA/OE List Serves <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Oe List ...] African migrations<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I have to go along with Randy on this. Even if we stop the growth of fossil fuels, end conventional agriculture and the way we raise and slaughter livestock, the earth would have to do a lot of healing to get healthy levels of toxins, etc.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Good news is that Georgetown, TX, a conservative township north of Austin, has gone 100% renewable (wind and solar) and bragging about it. Austin has passed law that any new energy source has to be renewable.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class=""><div style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-spacing: 0px; white-space: normal; text-transform: none; line-height: normal; letter-spacing: normal; font-weight: normal; font-variant: normal; font-style: normal; font-family: Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; border-spacing: 0px;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2;"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13px;" class="">George Holcombe<br class="">14900 Yellowleaf Tr.<br class="">Austin, TX 78728<br class="">Mobile 512/252-2756<br class=""><a href="mailto:geowanda1@me.com" class="">geowanda1@me.com</a></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13px;" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="font-size: 13px;" class="">"Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no power greater than a community discovering what it cares about." Margaret Wheatley<br class=""></span><br class=""></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></div></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 11, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Jaime,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There's no question that the projection of a carrying capacity of 9 billion for the planet is based upon certain assumptions. Can we expand that by changing our consumption habits and lifestyles, and by configuring human habitat to increase density, etc.? Perhaps. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But the point is, when you look at that Earthrise there is a parameter. It doesn't go on forever. At some point all the adjustments will have been made and we will hit a wall, and that point is closer now than ever before. And yet we continue to live, certainly in the developed world, as if there were no limits. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The "big lie" that we can have unlimited growth (population, economic, etc.) on a finite planet must be replaced by a new story that acknowledges abundance and the possibility of equity for all, but within limits. In the process we have to assure that the developing nations and people everywhere living in poverty, upon whose backs the economic prosperity of the developed nations has been accomplished, from this point forward have the same opportunities as the rest us to a meaningful, quality life. But without acknowledging the limits, and now, the future is bleak for all, regardless of economic status. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Randy</div><div class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad<div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class="">On Aug 11, 2015, at 6:32 AM, via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><font size="4" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class=""><font size="4" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class="">I think it was JFK who said that there are no immigrants on planet Earth.</font><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class="">If I am not mistaken, the 9 billion projection of the earth's holding capacity is based on a consumption pattern that keeps the US using 80% of the world resources. That is certainly negotiable.</font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="4" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class="">Africa is mother country where all of us derive 97% of our DNA. The US immigration policy is different for the Mexicans as it is for the Canadians. Why do we need to follow European </font><font face="Times New Roman,Times,serif" size="4" class="">proprietary definitions of continents and countries.</font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class="">Did we not repeal the Chinese Exclusion Act less than a century ago?</font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class="">The projections on the life and demise of planet Earth is, at best, grossly exaggerated, on the on hand, and favoring a particular life style on the other. The Earthrise image projected one home. That's where I live. </font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class="">IMH naturalized American O!</font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;" class=""><font size="4" class="">Jaime Vergara</font></div></font></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span class="">_______________________________________________</span><br class=""><span class="">OE mailing list</span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a></span><br class=""><span class=""><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net" class="">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a></span><br class=""></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">OE mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:OE@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">OE@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div>_______________________________________________
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