<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I’m never sure I’m responding to actually what is being said, but my take is that the Social Process Triangles and Armstrong is about the oneness of all and the struggle to talk about it in a way we experience reality. I do not think of E-P-C separate but a part of a single dynamic we call life. Much like the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, each entity has its’ own energy, but not separate from the others. I also like the Yin-Yang which depicts that the opposites are also part of each other and is about balance. We have spoken about imbalance, and I certainly experience that. It is that which creates movement. The economic over-emphasis which has been in place for sometime leads us to all kinds of acts toward rebalancing or balancing, which in actuality never happens. It might indicate death or stasis. Karen Armstrong, for me, is correct in pointing to terrorism when identified within one category may have more of its strengths, causes and implications in a different one. Certainly if we want to deal with terrorism to lessen it, the greater part will not be treated by changing religion or a religion. Economics and politics have perhaps the larger role.<div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">Jim,</div><div class="">This is a very interesting interview. One of the messages I get from Armstrong is, were she to organize society as we do in the SP, she would likely say that the lines separating the economic from the political from the cultural are becoming very blurred, maybe even to the point is seamlessness. I certainly see some of this in the ways of the world. What say you? Are these lines disappearing and, if so, is this a good thing or something responsible people should try to counteract? </div><div class="">Randy<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPad</div><div class=""><br class="">On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:26 AM, James Wiegel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div class=""><a href="http://www.salon.com/2014/11/23/karen_armstrong_sam_harris_anti_islam_talk_fills_me_with_despair/" class="">http://www.salon.com/2014/11/23/karen_armstrong_sam_harris_anti_islam_talk_fills_me_with_despair/</a><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">Jim Wiegel</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody;" class="">We have to fall in love if only to provide an alibi for the random despair we were going to feel anyway. 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