<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Sounds like, Paul, it all may have all started with King David at the earliest, or maybe Emperor Constantine at the latest. Today, however, it appears that the chain of command is economic barons influencing politics rather than political leaders influencing religion. </div><div>Randy<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 24, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Paul <<a href="mailto:pschrijnen@aol.com">pschrijnen@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Sounds like the prince-bishops in Europe for much of the last millennium. Dialogue across sectors between equals probably generates better conversation. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 24 Nov 2014, at 14:59, Randy Williams via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Jim,</div><div>This is a very interesting interview. One of the messages I get from Armstrong is, were she to organize society as we do in the SP, she would likely say that the lines separating the economic from the political from the cultural are becoming very blurred, maybe even to the point is seamlessness. I certainly see some of this in the ways of the world. What say you? Are these lines disappearing and, if so, is this a good thing or something responsible people should try to counteract? </div><div>Randy<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 24, 2014, at 8:26 AM, James Wiegel via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="http://www.salon.com/2014/11/23/karen_armstrong_sam_harris_anti_islam_talk_fills_me_with_despair/">http://www.salon.com/2014/11/23/karen_armstrong_sam_harris_anti_islam_talk_fills_me_with_despair/</a><br><br><div>Jim Wiegel</div><div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.701961); font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(130, 98, 83, 0.0980392);">We have to fall in love if only to provide an alibi for the random despair we were going to feel anyway. 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