<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I'm a little appalled at the blithe perpetration of degrading racial stereotypes by recent posts regarding the photo of a Black man (dressed pretty normally in an era appropriate casual suit) - I had a similar suit in Blue and was not considered pimpish. <br>
<br></div><div>The guy looks like my brother-in-law.<br></div><div><br></div>Did you bother to read the caption? And if you did, why did you dismiss it out of hand ? Because of some memory "feelings" of some kind?<br>
<br></div>And we wonder why our prisons are packed to the gills with Black men.<br><br>Black man / white girl still gets you arrested in this country.<br><br></div>Hmmm.<br><br></div><div>Don't get me wrong - feelings are important.<br>
<br>Unconsciously casting and perpetrating generalized judgements based on feelings .... is a game only the privileged of this country clearly benefit from.<br></div><div><br></div>David Flowers<br><div><div><div><br><br>
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1. Re: Photos from Uptown in 1970s (Marge Philbrook)<br>
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From: Marge Philbrook <<a href="mailto:msphilbrook@gmail.com">msphilbrook@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Shelley Hahn <<a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>><br>
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As one who currently lives and works in Uptown, I'd like to say that lots<br>
of these areas look familiar today, that we were wise to stay out of the<br>
neighborhood as much as possible 40 years ago, that all of us have many<br>
stories we could tell about Uptown.<br>
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I was on the development team that visited this building to decide whether<br>
to recommend accepting this gift. I remember Phll Townley, Fred Buss and I<br>
and I'm no sure who else came to look at it and decided it would be a<br>
usable gift. I remember that the 100 of us who didn't have small school<br>
children moved in from the alley during a night, bringing our personal<br>
belongings and our mattresses only - We intended to sleep on the top of<br>
desks in the various rooms on all the floors in the building and use filing<br>
cabinets for dressers..<br>
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I remember that the restaurant in our building at the corner of Lawrence<br>
and Sheridan was closed and we used that as our kitchen and dining room. I<br>
remember there were only two showers in the building one on 4 and one on 8<br>
so we named one "men" and one "women" and waited in line to shower. There<br>
was and still is a shower in the basement which some people used.<br>
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I better stop this but I think it would be great for several of us to look<br>
at this man's book and bring back our memories of living here in the 70s.<br>
We always felt lucky to have a parking lot.<br>
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Marge Philbrook<br>
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On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Shelley Hahn <<a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Jann, I had exactly the same reaction to that photo. It was not about<br>
> race for me at all. I saw all the pimps and pimp-mobiles around Uptown<br>
> back in the day ... and that is what this guy reminded me of. I have a<br>
> very bad feeling about what might have happened to that little girl and her<br>
> mother. I hope I'm wrong.<br>
><br>
> Shelley<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM, <<a href="mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com">LAURELCG@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I'm grateful to Shelley for sharing this. Now I realize how little I<br>
>> really got out into the neighborhood<br>
>><br>
>> These pictures are amazing and so is the text, written by a good-hearted<br>
>> man with an artist's eye.<br>
>><br>
>> I want to make one comment. The author called both white and black<br>
>> people's visceral reaction to the image of the black man hugging the little<br>
>> white girl racist. I disagree. The creep factor isn't racism. The<br>
>> expression on the girl's face makes me think he was a pimp. The picture<br>
>> nauseated me. Learning how much trafficking goes on has made me more aware.<br>
>><br>
>> There are many stories in those pictures,aren't there?<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you again, Shelley.<br>
>><br>
>> Blessings,<br>
>> Jann McGuire<br>
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Yes, it would be good to hear early memories of moving into 4750 and Uptown.<br>
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I was working with Phil Townley at the time, and accompanied him to<br>
a council meeting which was to provide permission for us to make the<br>
move. They asked all sorts of questions about who we were, and I was<br>
furiously scribbling answers for Phil to give. He thoroughly ignored<br>
everything I wrote (wisely, it turned out). We got the permission and<br>
moved in.<br>
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One feature of the early days was security: someone was posted in the<br>
Guild Hall at night and had to check the door to the back alley every<br>
hour. The noises of a near-empty building at night made for<br>
nerve-wracking times. It wasn't ghosts that were scary -- one felt<br>
almost able to handle them, It was what was outside that created the unease.<br>
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The rooms were office spaces, and some had walls; the rest had file<br>
cabinets as dividers with curtains hung from the ceiling. Privacy was<br>
hard to come by. But work space was ample on the first floor, and for<br>
the first time, many of us had actual desks and file cabinets!<br>
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It would be good to hear stories from others who made the move.<br>
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At 07:38 PM 12/4/2013, Marge Philbrook wrote:<br>
>As one who currently lives and works in Uptown, I'd like to say that<br>
>lots of these areas look familiar today, that we were wise to stay<br>
>out of the neighborhood as much as possible 40 years ago, that all<br>
>of us have many stories we could tell about Uptown.<br>
><br>
>I was on the development team that visited this building to decide<br>
>whether to recommend accepting this gift. I remember Phll Townley,<br>
>Fred Buss and I and I'm no sure who else came to look at it and<br>
>decided it would be a usable gift. I remember that the 100 of<br>
>us who didn't have small school children moved in from the alley<br>
>during a night, bringing our personal belongings and our mattresses<br>
>only - We intended to sleep on the top of desks in the various rooms<br>
>on all the floors in the building and use filing cabinets for dressers..<br>
><br>
>I remember that the restaurant in our building at the corner of<br>
>Lawrence and Sheridan was closed and we used that as our kitchen and<br>
>dining room. I remember there were only two showers in the building<br>
>one on 4 and one on 8 so we named one "men" and one "women" and<br>
>waited in line to shower. There was and still is a shower in the<br>
>basement which some people used.<br>
><br>
>I better stop this but I think it would be great for several of us<br>
>to look at this man's book and bring back our memories of living<br>
>here in the 70s. We always felt lucky to have a parking lot.<br>
><br>
>Marge Philbrook<br>
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>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Shelley Hahn<br>
><<mailto:<a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>><a href="mailto:shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com">shelley.l.hahn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>Jann, I had exactly the same reaction to that photo. It was not<br>
>about race for me at all. I saw all the pimps and pimp-mobiles<br>
>around Uptown back in the day ... and that is what this guy reminded<br>
>me of. I have a very bad feeling about what might have happened to<br>
>that little girl and her mother. I hope I'm wrong.<br>
><br>
>Shelley<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:27 PM,<br>
><<mailto:<a href="mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com">LAURELCG@aol.com</a>><a href="mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com">LAURELCG@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>I'm grateful to Shelley for sharing this. Now I realize how little I<br>
>really got out into the neighborhood<br>
><br>
>These pictures are amazing and so is the text, written by a<br>
>good-hearted man with an artist's eye.<br>
><br>
>I want to make one comment. The author called both white and black<br>
>people's visceral reaction to the image of the black man hugging the<br>
>little white girl racist. I disagree. The creep factor isn't racism.<br>
>The expression on the girl's face makes me think he was a pimp. The<br>
>picture nauseated me. Learning how much trafficking goes on has made<br>
>me more aware.<br>
><br>
>There are many stories in those pictures,aren't there?<br>
><br>
>Thank you again, Shelley.<br>
><br>
>Blessings,<br>
>Jann McGuire<br>
><br>
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America's Health Care Debate and What it Reveals<br>
Every nation I visited on my recent European lecture tour has a National Health System, paid for by tax dollars and run for all the people by the government itself. Contrary to the propaganda of the American political right, these health services are well run and enormously popular in both conservative and liberal circles. The citizens in these democracies assume that health care is a right, guaranteed by the state to all. It is not a perk of the workplace, available only to those who are employed. It is an asset of citizenship. So Europe?s leaders and its citizens across the political spectrum viewed the recent American episode in political brinkmanship, which attempted to defund the Affordable Care Act, as the act of an adolescent America, demonstrating yet again that its leaders are not mature enough to govern the world?s most powerful nation. Sometimes it is salutary to see our nation through the eyes of others. To them America?s Tea Party leaders were refusing to address<br>
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The idea that a few of the Congressional majority would actually force America into default and bankruptcy, bringing on, the Europeans feared, a world wide depression in order to stop people from getting health care, left them disillusioned with America?s political leadership.<br>
I share that anger and view with alarm not only the behavior of the Tea Party leaders, but also that of the moderate wing of the Republican Party for not standing up to the bullying, almost neo-Nazi like tactics, of these right wing extremists. Have we as a nation really come to the place where one of our two major political parties is willing to let the poor, who have no insurance, die because they can?t afford treatment? Are we now so individualistic as a nation that we will refuse to act out any sense of corporate responsibility toward the less fortunate of this land? Are we willing to say that people who have pre-existing medical conditions cannot buy health insurance? Have we come to the place where we act as if medical care is only the privilege of the wealthy? The stated propaganda, recycled through every right wing politician, that the United States has the best health care in the world is challenged by the facts. It also reveals how little privileged politicians know<br>
about the real world of America?s poor. There is not one single category in which U.S. health care is statistically the best in the world when the entire population is averaged in! What we do have is the most expensive health care in the world, but America?s patients get less bang for their buck than in any other developed nation.<br>
Too many people feed at the trough of the American practice of medicine. The drug companies sell drugs to every other country of the world at a lower rate than they sell them in America. Trial lawyers, who live off suing doctors and hospitals, also add to the costs of our system of health care. Medical equipment builders and suppliers want independent hospitals to compete for their state of the art devices, even though they reach a saturation point in urban areas and once they are purchased, the doctors are encouraged to use them whether competent care calls for that test or not. The medical profession itself has become for many doctors not a vocation in which they serve, but a position that can and does make them quite wealthy. Is an income of over a million dollars a year necessary for some doctors to provide good health care? I am not anti-doctor. I know quite well the high cost of a medical education and the years of very low salaries as an intern or a resident, but shoul<br>
d there be no limit on how much profit anyone can make on the sicknesses of our fellow citizens? Should paying dividends to shareholders or massive salaries to executives of Health Care Companies be a necessary or even a moral component in delivering health care to the masses of our citizens?<br>
The same Congress who tried to defund the Affordable Care Act has also refused to consider increasing taxes on those whose ordinary income exceeds a million dollars a year; they have refused to cap insurance settlements awarded by juries in malpractice cases; they have balked at closing loopholes, which make it possible for the secretaries of doctors to pay a higher percentage of their incomes in taxes than do the doctors, and they have made no effort to reign in the excessive profits of the health care corporations or the medical device businesses. There is something ethically wrong when the political passion is to provide tax cover for wealthy people while at the same time trying to gut the health care of ordinary Americans. It is scary as well.<br>
I listened in vain to the Tea Party congressmen, to Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and to those who supported their efforts to hear what alternative they had to offer, if they actually had succeeded in defunding and thus killing the Affordable Care Act. The fact is that they have no alternative to offer and when pressed on this glaring omission, they fall back on slogans like ?self insurance? that have long ago failed, leaving some 40 million United States citizens, most of them women and children, without insurance and thus without significant health care.<br>
When we clear away the political rhetoric and propaganda, there are only three alternatives for providing health care to the citizens of this country. One is to create a National Health Care System that includes every one and is funded by tax dollars and run by the government. This is the system adopted by every developed nation in the world except the United States. Critics marshal their arguments against this system which, when examined and tested by experience, are blatantly not true. ?No government can run anything competently,? they say. Yet Medicare is a government run health care program that patients and doctors alike applaud. ?You will have no choice in how you are treated or by whom,? is another incorrect fear-mongering attack. The fact is that the insurance companies dictate to us the doctors who are in their system that we are allowed to see. ?Death panels will be set up and life or death decisions will be made by bureaucrats.? That was the Sarah Palin line. It is<br>
also blatantly untrue and it is little more than fear being peddled by people with a vested interest to protect. There comes a time when life and death decisions must be made. A ?Living Will? is one way to do that and the choice to do so is always in the hands of the patient. If we could get past our fears, there are many advantages to a national health care system. Its focus is on health maintenance and prevention, not on treating the disease once contracted. There is a tremendous saving in a single payer plan.<br>
For many in the United States, however, such a plan smacks of ?socialized medicine? and even though that response is both irrational and uninformed, it is nonetheless powerful. That is why in the United States alone, some method that will provide universal health care through private corporations has been cobbled together. To do it this way is enormously complicated, which then allows its critics to castigate it for the red tape and complicated decision-making by bureaucrats rather than by doctors. If medical care is to be run as a free enterprise, profit-making system, the health corporations will of necessity be forced to control costs. The free market is designed to insure profit to share holders. So you can?t have it both ways.<br>
The Affordable Care Act passed in the first two years of the Obama administration was in fact patterned on a plan developed by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Republican think tank. Its original purpose was to counter any attempt to build a national health care service. It was adopted first by the state of Massachusetts under the leadership of Republican Governor Mitt Romney. In order to work, it requires universal enrollment or a fine paid by those who do not enroll. Everyone, including the young and healthy, must be in the system to keep costs down. If young people can opt out of the system it will simply collapse financially. The trade off is that people pay when they are young to be able to afford health care when they are old. To mitigate against the price shock to the young, a provision was added to the law to enable young people to stay on their parent?s heath care plan until age 26, if they were still living at home either unemployed or working on a graduate d<br>
egree. It also requires that exotic health care practices be regulated. An enormous percentage of every health care dollar is spent in the last year of a person?s life. Decisions will have to be made as to when we are prolonging life and when we are simply postponing death. That fact of life, faced everyday in every hospital in this land, is what politicians use to spread fear of death panels and ?allowing Grandma to die.? A mature society must be willing to define the moment when meaningful life comes to an end.<br>
If there is no universal national health care system then this privately run, for profit, health care bill is the only alternative. The Affordable Care Act represents this alternative. The Tea Party wing of the Republican Party would not tolerate a national health program and now apparently they are not willing to tolerate a privately run health care program either. They want to defund this ?disaster? before it can get established. Fair enough, we say, then what is your alternative? They have none! They propose none! So what does that mean? It means that they desire that health care be available only to those who can afford it! That is the inevitable result if this part of the Republican Party has its way. Health care thus becomes an asset that only the well-to-do can enjoy. The rest will depend on charity, the good will of a few doctors or the beneficence of a patron. Those who want to defund the Affordable Care Act surely must know that this is their only alternative.<br>
Can the Affordable Health Care Act be improved? Of course, but that will have to be accomplished through the legislative process. The bulldozer tactics of the Tea Party will never accomplish reform. So this nation?s choice is either to make the Affordable Care Act work or to embrace the only cruel alternative that remains. I am sick of ideologically-driven politicians who do not know or admit the consequences of their own outrageous rhetoric.<br>
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Your columns are always thought provoking and filled with such wisdom. Thanks for sharing your incredible knowledge and insight with us. I was thrilled when you came to Chattanooga several years ago and I actually got to hear you in person at Grace Church. A recent column reminded me of one you wrote last summer right before my granddaughter was to be baptized. In last summer?s column you wrote about performing a baptism and being struck with the language used in the baptismal service.<br>
I have been a member of the Church of the Good Shepherd in Chattanooga for over 40 years, but I have to admit I was a little surprised when my son, who lives with his wife and daughter in California, said he wanted to have his daughter baptized here in the church where he grew up. Although he is a very spiritual person, he hasn?t attended church for years. I myself rarely attend services at our church because when hearing the liturgy and reciting the creeds, I feel as if I am being forced to wear shoes that I have outgrown and that feel several sizes too small. I am eternally grateful, however, that the church allows our dream group to meet there and encourages our ?sacred studies? group to hold weekend workshops there as well. I have thanked our priest on more than one occasion for being open to letting me and the others explore our spirituality in unconventional ways.<br>
Back to my granddaughter?s baptism. We couldn?t have the service in the church because there are only certain Sundays used for joint baptisms and their visit didn?t fall on one of those Sundays. We decided to have the service at a family cabin on a lake in the woods and a friend of mine, who is an Episcopal priest, but has no parish, agreed to perform the baptism. When she sent the service to my son to read, he said he didn?t like it because there was way too much talk about sin. It was right about this time that your column came out so I sent it to him. He agreed with everything you said! My priest friend then sent him the Australian service which she thought might be more to his liking. The mention of sin in this version was a turn off as well. He said all they wanted to do was to introduce their daughter to God?s love. The priest was bound by her vows to use some form of Episcopal liturgy so my son went online and found a pastor in Chattanooga from the Unity Church who was<br>
thrilled over performing the service. It was his first baptism and he wrote the service himself. It was absolutely glorious!<br>
You have opened up a monumentally important topic in that column and closed with the question, ?What can we do about it?? I await your response with an open mind and eager anticipation.<br>
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Dear Alice,<br>
First, may I say that I am delighted you found the Unity Church. That group of Christians seems to me to be moving in the path that the church of the future must move and I applaud them. I think they are leading in the direction that more mainline churches will inevitably go in the future. Traditional religious concepts, however, die slowly and sometimes only after exhausting themselves in denial and irrelevance.<br>
The major problem with most baptism liturgies, including those of my own church, is that they were developed as the cure for a diagnosis that is simply wrong. They assume the pre-modern mythology that there was in the beginning an original perfection of which originally perfect human beings were a part. That is portrayed biblically in the story of the perfection in the mythical Garden of Eden. According to this biblical story, however, that perfection was broken by human disobedience, which in turn plunged human beings and the whole world into original sin. That is portrayed in the biblical story of the fall and subsequent banishment of the first human family from the Garden of Eden. It was this story that formed the original theological framework in which baptism has been cast. It postulates an originally perfect creation, which was ruined by original sin. Apart from the cleansing waters of baptism, life is doomed to be lived apart from God. That is why the church once taugh<br>
t that unbaptized babies suffered in hell for all eternity. That idea was so repugnant that in time it was modified and ?Limbo for unbaptized children? was developed. This Limbo was not a place of eternal punishment, but it was a place where its inhabitants were forever denied the vision of God?s presence.<br>
This theology turns God into a monster who does not know how to forgive. The primary desire of this God is to punish unless this God can rescue. This theology turns Jesus into the ultimate victim of God?s wrath. Jesus had to pay the price that God required for our sins. It turns you and me into guilt-filled victims. The good news, however, is that this theology is based on presuppositions that are being dismissed increasingly because they are simply wrong.<br>
There was no original perfection. There was rather a long and complicated evolution from matter, to life, to consciousness, to self-consciousness. If there was no original perfection, there could have been no fall from perfection, so original sin is simply wrong and it has got to go. If there was no fall into sin, then seeing Jesus as the savior who rescues us from the fall that never happened, to restore us to a status that we have never possessed, becomes absolute nonsense. We must develop a new way to tell the Christ story.<br>
Human life is not fallen, it is incomplete. We do not need a savior, we need the love and affirmation that accepts us as we are and empowers us to be all that we are capable of being. Your son?s comment that all he wanted to do was to introduce his daughter to the love of God is dead accurate. That is what baptism is supposed to be about.<br>
I did a baptism several weeks ago in my church in Morristown and before I began, I tried to defang the baptismal liturgy. We still have a long way to go. I encourage clergy in all traditions to work on the theology and liturgy of baptism. Until those liturgies are changed, I urge parents to get past the words of most baptismal liturgies until you find the words ?Bring them to the fullness of God?s peace and glory.? That is what baptism is all about.<br>
~John Shelby Spong<br>
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