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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Randy, you're a dandy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> How do we satiate the
Baals?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Domestic Tranquility could well
be the answer. There is no appropriate response such as gun control. My friend,
a gun freak, would say the response to Sandy Hook would be for someone who had a
licensed gun to defend the children and kill the gunboy; thus, the more
guns the better. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The answer is changing our gun
culture. Doesn't Great Britain still make it illegal to possess guns. Are the
London "Bobbies" still unarmed? If so, this is the direction that is necessary
to take. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Perhaps, the Supreme Court will
take up the definition of the "Right to Bear Arms." Is this a right reserved for
those trained in a "citizen's army," or is it the right of every homeowner to
bear arms in its own defense. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Recently, in Wichita, KS, an
intruder was shot while invading a home. Is the purpose for gun ownership?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> As for me and my house, I do not
keep guns, although, I am not opposed to the use of guns for hunting or
recreation. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The ultimate question to be
answered is, how to we change a nation's attitude about guns when we punish
prisoners with the death penalty, and support a military presence around the
world? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> The god Moloch (one of the
Baals) gets fed regularly with the young fruit of our
loins. During this event in Connecticut, old Molly must be vomiting
from the kill. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Inner Peace, says it more than
ever!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Bill Salmon</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=oe@lists.wedgeblade.net
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">Order Ecumenical Community</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 14, 2012 3:59
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] Salmon: Start
the conversation</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Probably when the second amendment was passed on December 15,
1791, 221 years ago tomorrow, it would have been under domestic
tranquility. That suggests to me that the story about guns and the role
they play in terms of their ability to provide security and
tranquility is really out of date. Maybe the place to start, as
Jack suggested, is with a new story regarding the place of guns that starts
with responsibility rather than rights.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><I>"Whatever the problem, community is the answer. There is no
power greater than a community discovering what it cares about."
</I>Margaret Wheatley</DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> William Salmon
<wsalmon@cox.net><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, December 14, 2012 3:53
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Oe List ...]
Salmon: Start the conversation<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>JUST A PASSING THOUGHT:RE:
Gun culture--<BR> Where does it--or its antithesis--show up on the
Social Process triangles?<BR> Bill<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Early" <<A href="mailto:lees.mail@comcast.net"
ymailto="mailto:lees.mail@comcast.net">lees.mail@comcast.net</A>><BR>To:
"Order Ecumenical Community" <<A href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
ymailto="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</A>>; "OE:
Dialogue Dialogue" <<A href="mailto:OE@topica.com"
ymailto="mailto:OE@topica.com">OE@topica.com</A>><BR>Cc: "ICA Dialogue
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Friday, December 14, 2012 3:27 PM<BR>Subject: [Oe List ...] Start the
conversation<BR><BR><BR>> It is brainstorm time. What can we do to
change the "gun culture" of our nation?<BR>> <BR>> Nationally, state
wide, locally and personally.<BR>> <BR>> The social act of repentance
might be a good place to start:<BR>> <BR>> 1. Become aware of
injustice<BR>> 2. Turn your back on it<BR>> 3. Abolish
within yourself<BR>> 4. Lead society<BR>> <BR>> BUT, this is a
brainstorm. If the above is a helpful start, great. If not, feel
free to come up with a different framework or, just share some ideas.<BR>>
<BR>> The conversation needs to happen now.<BR>> <BR>> Lee<BR>>
<BR>> Lee Early<BR>> 19230 Forest Park Dr. NE, A102<BR>> Lake Forest
Park, WA 98155<BR>> <BR>> Home: (206) 922-3182<BR>> Lee's
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