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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I received a call from David Walters about
popular preaching. He is looking for papers produced on the subject. Can
anybody help him with this? If you have papers (Marge), post them to our
listserv.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And to Margaret-you always write and speak
beautifully. I know there is a gift in popular preaching as you have described
it below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And to Jack and everyone, do take a look
at Jack’s chart. Staring back at you will be your whole life experience as OE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<br>
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Herman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Margaret Helen Aiseayew<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 04, 2012
9:21 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Order
Ecumenical Community</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...] An
Amazing Two Days at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ICA</st1:place></st1:City>
Chicago-TellingOurStory & The Global Archives</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Jack,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Your chart is wonderful. I was wondering if Training,
Inc. might not be something that fills in that empty box in training. As
one who was sent to be a permeator in every location I was ever assigned,
popular preaching was my forte. I think sometimes it is the most
sustaining aspect of my work at the motel even today. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>(I had a fellow down for breakfast yesterday morning who was
talking about wondering if the job he was doing made a difference. I
explained to him that the difference we make is not something we are promised
to know in this lifetime. Told him a little story about having something
someone had appreciated revealed to me, and then mentioned letting others know
their impact on us. I said it was a gratitude thing. He left the
breakfast room a different person, smiling, laughing.)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I didn't find the permeators guild work in the training and
I was a part of the social workers that worked in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Fifth</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">City</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>.
I am certain that the teachers would have equivalent revelations to
offer. There was always, through permeation and fund raising, a strong
connection of our strategies to the larger world. It was like the seeds
that are scattered in springtime with weeping. I guess I am suggesting
that this continuous external engagement that brought data back into the
community is an essential piece to the research, demonstration and training
process, If I were working on triangles, I would name it a "that
without which" dynamic.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Forgive me in advance if this sounds like someone who wants
to make the form of their engagement year after year sound more important than
it was to the journey of the whole. Everyone has to have a story and this
is a big part of mine and I am sticking to it. Thanks for all your
efforts.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Love to Judi, Margaret</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:icabombay@igc.org" title="icabombay@igc.org">Jack Gilles</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" title="oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">Order
Ecumenical Community</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Sunday, September
30, 2012 6:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [Oe List ...]
An Amazing Two Days at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ICA</st1:place></st1:City>
Chicago-Telling OurStory & The Global Archives<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Herman, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It was a delight for us to have you there for two days. Your passion
for our "living legacy" is indeed the same we are doing in the
Archives. We are excited to be exploring with computer technologies on how we
might make that a reality. I did some adjustment on the screen you have sent
out. Here it is. I intend to develop a short description for each item which
will be available in a week. Someone mentioned our work on Popular Preaching
and I'm still trying to figure where that would go in the chart. We are
interested in other areas of our work that need to be included.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Jack<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Herman Greene wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I spent what for me were an amazing two days in <ST1:CITY u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chicago</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></st1:place></st1:City>
last Thursday and Friday. I went because Jack and Judy Gilles were working on
the Global Archives and were going to leave this morning, September 30. It was
the only time I could get to see them. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>I am finding a yearning to tell our story and
bring some of it forward. More particularly I miss working with people who were
formed out of the same fire as I was. I work with activists, truly “Those Who
Care,” but something is missing for me. It’s primarily an interior aspect—that
“die on the march” aspect, that “live the mystery” aspect, that “the past is
approved and the future is open (to be created)” aspect, that “we can get
anything down that is necessary” aspect, that “we can drop everything and focus
. . . and sacrifice” aspect,” that “we can leave all our possessions behind” if
need be aspect.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>One could argue that the Marines also create this
kind of interior steel and discipline, but it is different. (Actually the
Marines might excel in honor of country and even willingness to die, but it is
still different.)<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>I have only experienced this in the Order. I know
this has made me much of what I am and I have a yearning to pass it on to
others, especially as I realize my own age, 67, and see so many colleagues
passing away.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>So while a part of me thinks its silly for
grownups to be filing all the town meeting 76 event folders (and all the work
that goes into that), another part of me also claws back to recover that past .
. . for the future.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>What we were as the Order has passed away (I mean
in terms of being able to re-create it as it was again), and all of those
magnificent moments and events we created have passed away. Yet there is an
echo in the hallway that will not stop.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>I will go into this more later, but what past it
is that I want to pass on is difficult to grasp. Is it the Order, RSI, EI, <ST1:CITY u1:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">ICA</ST1:CITY></st1:City>, EI and <ST1:CITY u1:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">ICA</ST1:CITY></st1:City>, all before Joe died (or in my case before
1975 when I left the Order), all up to today including the recent history of <ST1:CITY u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ICA</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></st1:place></st1:City>?
I have some ideas, but they are not important for this email. All that’s
important now is that I was drawn back to <ST1:CITY u1:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u1:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chicago</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></st1:place></st1:City>
to discuss, primarily with Jack, how the spirit transformation part of who we
were then (and inside are now) can be transmitted to the future as we who
experienced this grow older and older and pass away.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>The “we” I am talking about is those of us who
carry a memory back of 50-55 years (other may have a different time span) when
it seems to me the really creative breakthroughs occurred. I’m at the younger
end of those who experienced that as adults (I was 21 when I joined the Order
in 1967). Now some may have joined in 1972 or later and still have “gotten it,”
but what I am talking about is something that was gotten or it was not, back
then. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>So we are a dying cohort and the question has
arisen for me whether there is something we still need to do together? My
answer is I think that if there is something that we still need to do together
it is to transmit that legacy as a living legacy for present and future
generations. Part of this is transmitting facts, part the interior narrative,
but most of all it is transmitting the timeless spiritual reality we came to
know and which has shaped our lives but this is not easy because it is not a
simple thing. It’s much more than just coming out of an RS-1, or any other
short even, inspired <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>I had many important moments of understanding this
past week in Chicago and felt tremendous gratitude for what Marge Philbrook and
colleagues have done on the archives, and for the work Jack has done in
thinking through how this can be a living legacy. I<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>In brief Jack and those who workshopped with him,
realized that its not just a matter of preserving the past by putting facts in
file cabinets and waiting for someone to want it, but it is giving people a way
of understanding what’s in the collection (Jack uses the term “curation” like a
museum curator) and applying that material to the cutting edge issues of our
time. What I especially appreciated though was the attached chart in three
formats, because it gave me a way to grasp the entirety of what it is that we
were/are/may need in some fashion to pass on. <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>In a certain sense the attached chart overwhelms
me because I thought there were a few key things like “contextual ethics” and
the RS-1 dynamic and a few other things that might “really need to be” passed
on . . . just a few key things. But now I see it was “all of it”—a giant
spiritual event and happening that unfolded over many years and took many forms
all of which were a single event. To recreate this would require thousands of
people in summer assemblies and a new order and that is not going to happen.
Yet I think there is something we can do and need to do and which no one else
can do.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>So, in conclusion, I believe there is something
we still need to do together and that is to pass on a living legacy. By
distinguishing legacy from living legacy I meant this: “Legacy” is preserving
the past for its own sake. “Living legacy” is recovering the past so that it
might continue to transform the future.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>The attached Accessions chart is just a
beginning. I know that Jack would like to receive your suggestions.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>More soon,<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>Herman<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Herman,<br>
<br>
It was a delight for us to have you there for two days. Your passion for our
"living legacy" is indeed the same we are doing in the Archives. We
are excited to be exploring with computer technologies on how we might make
that a reality. I did some adjustment on the screen you have sent out. Here it
is. I intend to develop a short description for each item which will be
available in a week. Someone mentioned our work on Popular Preaching and I'm
still trying to figure where that would go in the chart. We are interested in
other areas of our work that need to be included.<br>
<br>
Jack<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sep 30, 2012, at 6:40 PM, Herman Greene wrote:<br>
<br>
> I spent what for me were an amazing two days in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:City> last Thursday and Friday. I went
because Jack and Judy Gilles were working on the Global Archives and were going
to leave this morning, September 30. It was the only time I could get to see
them.<br>
> <br>
> I am finding a yearning to tell our story and bring some of it forward.
More particularly I miss working with people who were formed out of the same
fire as I was. I work with activists, truly “Those Who Care,” but something is
missing for me. It’s primarily an interior aspect—that “die on the march”
aspect, that “live the mystery” aspect, that “the past is approved and the
future is open (to be created)” aspect, that “we can get anything down that is
necessary” aspect, that “we can drop everything and focus . . . and sacrifice”
aspect,” that “we can leave all our possessions behind” if need be aspect.<br>
> <br>
> One could argue that the Marines also create this kind of interior steel
and discipline, but it is different. (Actually the Marines might excel in honor
of country and even willingness to die, but it is still different.)<br>
> <br>
> I have only experienced this in the Order. I know this has made me much of
what I am and I have a yearning to pass it on to others, especially as I
realize my own age, 67, and see so many colleagues passing away.<br>
> <br>
> So while a part of me thinks its silly for grownups to be filing all the
town meeting 76 event folders (and all the work that goes into that), another
part of me also claws back to recover that past . . . for the future.<br>
> <br>
> What we were as the Order has passed away (I mean in terms of being able
to re-create it as it was again), and all of those magnificent moments and
events we created have passed away. Yet there is an echo in the hallway that
will not stop.<br>
> <br>
> I will go into this more later, but what past it is that I want to pass on
is difficult to grasp. Is it the Order, RSI, EI, <st1:City w:st="on">ICA</st1:City>,
EI and <st1:City w:st="on">ICA</st1:City>, all before Joe died (or in my case
before 1975 when I left the Order), all up to today including the recent
history of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">ICA</st1:place></st1:City>?
I have some ideas, but they are not important for this email. All that’s
important now is that I was drawn back to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Chicago</st1:place></st1:City>
to discuss, primarily with Jack, how the spirit transformation part of who we
were then (and inside are now) can be transmitted to the future as we who
experienced this grow older and older and pass away.<br>
> <br>
> The “we” I am talking about is those of us who carry a memory back of
50-55 years (other may have a different time span) when it seems to me the
really creative breakthroughs occurred. I’m at the younger end of those who
experienced that as adults (I was 21 when I joined the Order in 1967). Now some
may have joined in 1972 or later and still have “gotten it,” but what I am
talking about is something that was gotten or it was not, back then.<br>
> <br>
> So we are a dying cohort and the question has arisen for me whether there
is something we still need to do together? My answer is I think that if there
is something that we still need to do together it is to transmit that legacy as
a living legacy for present and future generations. Part of this is transmitting
facts, part the interior narrative, but most of all it is transmitting the
timeless spiritual reality we came to know and which has shaped our lives but
this is not easy because it is not a simple thing. It’s much more than just
coming out of an RS-1, or any other short even, inspired<br>
> <br>
> I had many important moments of understanding this past week in Chicago
and felt tremendous gratitude for what Marge Philbrook and colleagues have done
on the archives, and for the work Jack has done in thinking through how this
can be a living legacy. I<br>
> <br>
> In brief Jack and those who workshopped with him, realized that its not
just a matter of preserving the past by putting facts in file cabinets and
waiting for someone to want it, but it is giving people a way of understanding
what’s in the collection (Jack uses the term “curation” like a museum curator)
and applying that material to the cutting edge issues of our time. What I
especially appreciated though was the attached chart in three formats, because
it gave me a way to grasp the entirety of what it is that we were/are/may need
in some fashion to pass on.<br>
> <br>
> In a certain sense the attached chart overwhelms me because I thought
there were a few key things like “contextual ethics” and the RS-1 dynamic and a
few other things that might “really need to be” passed on . . . just a
few key things. But now I see it was “all of it”—a giant spiritual event and
happening that unfolded over many years and took many forms all of which were a
single event. To recreate this would require thousands of people in summer
assemblies and a new order and that is not going to happen. Yet I think there
is something we can do and need to do and which no one else can do.<br>
> <br>
> So, in conclusion, I believe there is something we still need to do
together and that is to pass on a living legacy. By distinguishing legacy from
living legacy I meant this: “Legacy” is preserving the past for its own sake.
“Living legacy” is recovering the past so that it might continue to transform
the future.<br>
> <br>
> The attached Accessions chart is just a beginning. I know that Jack would
like to receive your suggestions.<br>
> <br>
> More soon,<br>
> <br>
> Herman<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> _____________________________________________<br>
> Herman Greene<br>
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w:st="on">NC</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">27516</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
> 919-929-4116 (h)<br>
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> Skype: hgreene-nc<br>
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