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<div><font style="background-color: transparent;" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks, Herman for your reflection and forwarding the accessions chart and for all the folks working on the archives.</font></div>
<div>Ellie</div>
<div><a href="mailto:elliestock@aol.com">elliestock@aol.com</a> </div>
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From: Herman Greene <hfgreene@mindspring.com><br>
To: 'Order Ecumenical Community' <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
Sent: Sun, Sep 30, 2012 5:44 pm<br>
Subject: [Oe List ...] An Amazing Two Days at ICA Chicago-Telling Our Story & The Global Archives<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> Herman Greene
[<a href="mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com?">mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 30, 2012
6:40 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Order Ecumenical Community'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> An Amazing Two Days at ICA Chicago-Telling Our
Story & The Global Archives</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I spent what for me were an amazing two days in Chicago last Thursday and
Friday. I went because Jack and Judy Gilles were working on the Global Archives
and were going to leave this morning, September 30. It was the only time I
could get to see them. </span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I am finding a yearning to tell our story and bring some of
it forward. More particularly I miss working with people who were formed out of
the same fire as I was. I work with activists, truly “Those Who
Care,” but something is missing for me. It’s primarily an interior
aspect—that “die on the march” aspect, that “live the
mystery” aspect, that “the past is approved and the future is open
(to be created)” aspect, that “we can get anything down that is
necessary” aspect, that “we can drop everything and focus . . . and
sacrifice” aspect,” that “we can leave all our possessions
behind” if need be aspect.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">One could argue that the Marines also create this kind of
interior steel and discipline, but it is different. (Actually the Marines might
excel in honor of country and even willingness to die, but it is still
different.)</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I have only experienced this in the Order. I know this has
made me much of what I am and I have a yearning to pass it on to others, especially
as I realize my own age, 67, and see so many colleagues passing away.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">So while a part of me thinks its silly for grownups to be
filing all the town meeting 76 event folders (and all the work that goes into
that), another part of me also claws back to recover that past . . . for the
future.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">What we were as the Order has passed away (I mean in terms
of being able to re-create it as it was again), and all of those magnificent
moments and events we created have passed away. Yet there is an echo in the
hallway that will not stop.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I will go into this more later, but what past it is that I
want to pass on is difficult to grasp. Is it the Order, RSI, EI, ICA, EI and ICA, all before
Joe died (or in my case before 1975 when I left the Order), all up to today
including the recent history of ICA?
I have some ideas, but they are not important for this email. All that’s
important now is that I was drawn back to Chicago
to discuss, primarily with Jack, how the spirit transformation part of who we
were then (and inside are now) can be transmitted to the future as we who
experienced this grow older and older and pass away.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">The “we” I am talking about is those of us who
carry a memory back of <font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">4</span></font>0-<font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;">4</span></font>5 years (other may have a
different time span) when it seems to me the really creative breakthroughs
occurred. I’m at the younger end of those who experienced that as adults
(I was 21 when I joined the Order in 1967). Now some may have joined in 1972 or
later and still have “gotten it,” but what I am talking about is
something that was gotten or it was not, back then. </span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">So we are a dying cohort and the question has arisen for me
whether there is something we still need to do together? My answer is I think
that if there is something that we still need to do together it is to transmit
that legacy as a living legacy for present and future generations. Part of this
is transmitting facts, part the interior narrative, but most of all it is
transmitting the timeless spiritual reality we came to know and which has
shaped our lives but this is not easy because it is not a simple thing.
It’s much more than just coming out of an RS-1, or any other short even,
inspired </span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">I had many important moments of understanding this past week
in Chicago and felt tremendous gratitude for what Marge Philbrook and
colleagues have done on the archives, and for the work Jack has done in
thinking through how this can be a living legacy. I</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">In brief Jack and those who workshopped with him, realized
that its not just a matter of preserving the past by putting facts in file
cabinets and waiting for someone to want it, but it is giving people a way of
understanding what’s in the collection (Jack uses the term
“curation” like a museum curator) and applying that material to the
cutting edge issues of our time. What I especially appreciated though was the
attached chart in three formats, because it gave me a way to grasp the entirety
of what it is that we were/are/may need in some fashion to pass on. </span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">In a certain sense the attached chart overwhelms me because
I thought there were a few key things like “contextual ethics” and
the RS-1 dynamic and a few other things that might “really need to
be” passed on . . . just a few key things. But now I see it was
“all of it”—a giant spiritual event and happening that unfolded
over many years and took many forms all of which were a single event. To
recreate this would require thousands of people in summer assemblies and a new
order and that is not going to happen. Yet I think there is something we can do
and need to do and which no one else can do.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">So, in conclusion, I believe there is something we still
need to do together and that is to pass on a living legacy. By distinguishing
legacy from living legacy I meant this: “Legacy” is preserving the
past for its own sake. “Living legacy” is recovering the past so
that it might continue to transform the future.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">The attached Accessions chart is just a beginning. I know
that Jack would like to receive your suggestions.</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt;">More soon,</span></font></div>
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