<head><style>body{font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,sans-serif;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{margin:0px;}</style></head><body><font color="#000000"><font size="2"><font face="arial,sans-serif">From wikipedia:  </font></font></font>His father, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison,_Sr." title="James Madison, Sr.">James Madison, Sr.</a> (1723–1801), was a tobacco planter who grew up on a plantation, then called Mount Pleasant, in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_Virginia" title="Orange County, Virginia">Orange County, Virginia</a>, which he had inherited upon reaching adulthood.<br>Madison attained prominence in Virginia politics, working with Jefferson to draft the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Statute_for_Religious_Freedom" title="Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom">Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom</a>, which was finally passed in 1786. It disestablished the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_England" title="Church of England">Church of England</a> and disclaimed any power of state compulsion in religious matters. He excluded <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Henry" title="Patrick Henry">Patrick Henry</a>'s plan to compel citizens to pay taxes that would go to a congregation of their choice. In 1777 Madison's cousin, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison_%28bishop%29" title="James Madison (bishop)">Right Reverend James Madison</a> (1749–1812), became president of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_College_of_William_%26_Mary" title="The College of William & Mary" class="mw-redirect">The College of William & Mary</a>.
 Working closely with Madison and Jefferson, Bishop Madison helped lead 
the College through the changes involving separation from both Great 
Britain and the Church of England. He also led college and state actions
 that resulted in the formation of the new <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Episcopal_Diocese_of_Virginia" title="Episcopal Diocese of Virginia">Episcopal Diocese of Virginia</a> after the Revolution.<br><blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: "Otto, Ken" <ottok@crcl.net>
<br>Sent: Sep 27, 2012 8:31 AM
<br>To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>
<br>Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] The old Order passing away

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I may be mistaken but I think James Madison
was a clergyman’s son.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Ken Otto<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>PSchrijnen@aol.com<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 27, 2012
1:10 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...]
[Dialogue] The old Order passing away</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Susan, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">I like the paragraph underneath your
signature. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">It speaks of the deep values you hold and
what you hope for society.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">In a message dated 27/09/2012 06:05:56
GMT Daylight Time, susan@gmdtech.com writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D">Jann, I sent an email a few days ago referencing the
book you’re talking about—Ellery had loaned it to me and I was wishing I had
made a copy of it before returning it to her, because it is not available from
any source.  Jon, do you remember the name of it?  The cover was
black and red, and I believe the title was something about betrayal. 
Jann, you’re right, they did not get out right away.  They were on the <st1:placetype w:st="on">island</st1:placetype> of <st1:placename w:st="on">Mindanao</st1:placename>,
and my parents were on the <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placetype w:st="on">island</st1:placetype>
 of <st1:placename w:st="on">Panay</st1:placename></st1:place>, where I was
born in ’44 after my mother had been in hiding in the jungle for several
years.  I believe Ellery got out by submarine on the USS Narwhal in
’43.  We got out by submarine when I was 3 months old the following year
and then went back right after the war (I grew up in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Philippines</st1:place></st1:country-region>).
Ellery might have known another girl from Mindanao who has just written a book
about her parents’ and her own WWII experience, called <i><span style="font-style:italic">Guerrilla Daughter</span></i> (the author, Ginger
Hanson Holmes, is a close friend of mine; her dad and teen age brothers served
in the Mindanao guerrillas under my uncle, Wendell Fertig). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D">The game you are talking about is actually a Philippine
folk dance called <i><span style="font-style:italic">Tinikling</span></i>. 
It is patterned after the movements of the <i><span style="font-style:italic">Tikling</span></i>
bird as its long legs move in and out of fish traps in the water.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><font color="#4f81bd" face="Papyrus" size="4"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:
Papyrus;color:#4F81BD;font-weight:bold">Susan<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="#1f497d" face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:#1F497D">We have staked the whole future of American civilization,
not upon the power of government, far from it. We've staked the future of all
our political institutions upon our capacity... to sustain ourselves according
to the Ten Commandments of God. (James Madison, 1778 to the General Assembly of
the State of <st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Virginia</st1:place></st1:state>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black">
oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>LAURELCG@aol.com<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 27, 2012
12:39 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> oe@lists.wedgeblade.net<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...]
[Dialogue] The old Order passing away<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">In the San Francisco House, 1970-71, Ellery acquired some bamboo
poles and taught the kids a Philippino game kind of like jump rope, but jumping
between the poles as they were clapped together in rhythm. She was very good at
it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">I believe she and her parents didn't get  evacuated
for 2 or 3 years after the war broke out. They were hidden from the
occupying Japanese army by local folks in the crawl space under the house
until smuggled out on a submarine and taken to Ayers Rock (?) in Australia.
Maybe Jon can elaborate. I believe her father wrote a book about it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">I feel privileged to have been acquainted with these two heroines.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">Jann McGuire  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">In a message dated 9/26/2012 8:02:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:dpat23@msn.com" title="mailto:dpat23@msn.com">dpat23@msn.com</a>
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">I remember Ellery's talking about having lived in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Philippines</st1:place></st1:country-region> as
a high school girl. (Her dad was a missionary and they were evacuated when WWII
broke out.)  When she  was assigned to <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Manila</st1:place></st1:city>, she thought the Tagalog language she
had been fluent in would come back to her fairly easily. She was very
frustrated to find that it was gone and not coming back. About 6 months in to
her assignment, she had been doing development in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Manila</st1:place></st1:city> and was exhausted. She got on the bus
to go home and wanted nothing much more than a good nap. But the women just
behind her would not let that happen. They kept yammering away about the most
stupid and trivial things: their kids and their squabbles, the troubles in
their marriages, and other nonsense. Ellery was furious; why couldn't these
women shut up and let her sleep? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">Suddenly, she realized that the women were speaking Tagalog and
she was understanding every word.  She was so tired that she had lost all
her inhibitions and the Tagalog that lay just beneath her conscious mind came
out. So from then on, she both understood and spoke Tagalog fluently.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black">She had a great time telling this story  on herself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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color:black">From: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net" title="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net">sunwalker@comcast.net</a><br>
To: <a target="_blank" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" title="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>;
<a target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" title="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:49:46 -0600<br>
Subject: [Dialogue] The old Order passing away<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="ecxmsonormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">First, a reflection on
Ellery – as a young and inexperienced Global Prior, Ellery was one of the ones
who was gracious enough to let me learn from my mistakes without rancor and yet
with continued nourishing support. Just her face was a human support mechanism.
She spiritually nourished me and we rarely even spoke. And with mortality on my
mind as so many saints are called home, knowing you have gone with God, I will
let go a bit of the anticipation of my own return.</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="ecxmsonormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class="ecxmsonormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">For Carol, while there
are many, many memories: one that popped to the top was the time we were at the
IERD in <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Delhi</st1:place></st1:city>
and had boarded the VERY tiny elevator on the top floor (about the 22<sup>nd</sup>
as I recall) of the hotel where we were housed. We pushed the button for the
ground floor and about a third of the way down, the elevator shuddered to a
stop and the door opened…on a brick wall. Well, I was a little claustrophobic
and unaware that Carol was extremely claustrophobic. That hour waiting to be
rescued (it could have been 15 minutes, but seemed like SEVERAL hours) was
revealing of the wondrous woman of steel (Superman move over) who kept us
breathing and laughing to avoid injuring ourselves in the mad panic of fear
that sets in when you MUST get OUT and you cannot. Clearly our circumstances
were not our problem. While in “Heaven,” do a few cartwheels for me, my dear,
as I know we both would enjoy them.</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class="ecxmsonormal"><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on"><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
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<p class="ecxmsonormal"><font color="purple" face="Pristina" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Pristina;color:purple">No mattter how far
you've gone down the wrong road, turn back. ~ Turkish Proverb</span></font><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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