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<P><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</A> <A href="mailto:[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]">[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]</A> <B>On Behalf Of </B>Susan Fertig<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Order Ecumenical Community'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney</SPAN>
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</P><P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">First, I find it offensive that there is an assumption that everyone on the listserv is a Democrat or espouses that party’s platform. Look up the definition of “group think”.</SPAN>
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</P><P><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Second, I find it offensive to perpetuate negatively distorted characterizations of one candidate (and I’ve often found that this listserv also perpetuates characterizations of others that are just as distorted through bias on perceived positives). That’s the Kool-aid part.</SPAN>
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</P><P><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</A> <A href="mailto:[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]">[mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net]</A> <B>On Behalf Of </B>David Walters<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Order Ecumenical Community<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] A good reflection on Romney</SPAN>
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