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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have had these “tiffs” before and, if I
remember correctly, some also involved Susan. We survived and maybe we learned
something.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We should always show respect for one
another, but I wouldn’t suggest any “rule change” yet. >From my standpoint, there’s
nothing wrong with lively exchanges unless they get chronically out of hand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Herman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net [mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>David M Dunn<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 18, 2012
7:50 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Order Ecumenical Community<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...] A good
reflection on Romney</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:56 PM, "Herman Greene" <<a
href="mailto:hfgreene@mindspring.com">hfgreene@mindspring.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m sorry, I want to distance myself from
this message. What Susan said to me didn’t bother me.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think I agree with others that this is
not the place to carry on a political debate, but it is a place to dialogue. I
would be happy to hear Susan’s thoughts if she wants to share them.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This passionate little maelstrom that we just fell into is one of the
reasons that the 'listserv' technology doesn't serve us as well as the quality
of our dialogue requires.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The kind of careful and thoughtful clarification of perspectives and
search for one another's truth requires something closer to face to face
communication (like an online meeting) or at the least, an online shared
dialogue space (like a 'wiki' that provides for a stream of comments) where we
can see contributions appear in real time and all of the preceding
contributions. (Facebook comments are the example of the running stream, but
not the example of a safe, private space for collegial dialogue.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>It would be fascinating and illuminating to see of we could discover
the images of fact and value (recalling Boulding) that lie behind the different
perceptions expressed here about the meaning of this moment in history.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>David<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>David
Dunn<br>
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9B<br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Denver</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CO</st1:State>
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