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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Can the institutional
church change? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> My quick answer is "Yes," the
church can change direction immediately! It happens at those times in history
that reveals a new paradigm: we believe we live in a World of Squares
only to discover there is a World of Rounds. We are living in such times in
the death of the Modern Scientific Worldview and the rise of the Postmodern
Intuitive Worldview. (Review the Social Process Triangles!) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> In fact, the change already has
occurred within the United Methodist Church; it is now being
practiced under the leadership of those born after
<STRONG>1985,</STRONG> and among a few people--like those in the
Order--who are the old Awakened Squares who have lived on the point between the
No Longer and the Not Yet. All the others will need to die off! No hurry,
though. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Yes, many of us are getting
Rounder but less Square. OK?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Such is my life. However, it is
exciting to live during the Great (GREAT) Turn. At least it can't be said that
at this Great Turn the Awakened are shoveling shit in Louisiana.
No, it is in Kansas where we shovel the shit of a dead metaphor under the
leadership of the Great Asshole himself--Gov. BROWNback. Go figure.
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> (Sorry? Not
really!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Pastor Bill </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rcwmbw@yahoo.com href="mailto:rcwmbw@yahoo.com">R Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 11, 2012 9:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue]
Hmm, the Methodists weigh in,sounds like the "council of a lifetime"</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>In the midst of the turmoil the church is going through this is one
of the most hopeful pieces I've seen. The primary question for me is,
can a church that has been so embedded in institutional structures for so long
realistically be expected to reverse course and again become a movemental
presence?</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>Randy </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the
world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it
desires."<BR>-Martin Buber (adapted)<BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> James Wiegel
<jfwiegel@yahoo.com><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> "oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"
<oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Colleague Dialogue
<dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 11, 2012 9:42
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Dialogue] Hmm,
the Methodists weigh in, sounds like the "council of a
lifetime"<BR></FONT></DIV><WBR>
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"dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net"
<dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><BR>Date: Monday, June 11, 2012,
10:24 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=yiv79359364plainMail>Wedgeblade.net has actually been up
since yesterday, but I just received a message from our host that
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