From carletonstock at aol.com  Fri May  1 11:49:37 2026
From: carletonstock at aol.com (carletonstock at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 1 May 2026 18:49:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Oe List ...] What's up with Denver Colleagues
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 Great work you and ANCA are doing in Denver, Sunny!? A good way to continue the still relevant mission of the Institute at the local level!Carleton StockKendal at OberlinOberlin, Ohio
    On Thursday, April 30, 2026 at 11:10:12 PM CDT, Sunny Walker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:   

 Spring greetings!Like our Redlands colleagues (you hear about them from Milan every now and then), Accelerate Neighborhood Climate Action (ANCA) in Denver is on the move. Here's a link to what we're up to at the moment. Have a look (you too can change the future, bend history, right?).
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nKMNZwHgF1iqZSLoAw-5Uat00G9SqJNzILHWXOZtCDE/edit?usp=sharing
And I hope you are taking gardening seriously!Peace,Sunny
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From tim at tswegner.net  Mon May 25 13:10:19 2026
From: tim at tswegner.net (Timothy Wegner)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
Message-ID: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
that date.

I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
weigh in.

1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will
cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.

2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
(originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
or oe-ica?

The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason
to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
larger community.

Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.

Thanks,

Tim Wegner
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From karen.snyder10 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:15:32 2026
From: karen.snyder10 at gmail.com (Karen Snyder)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen

> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
> 
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
> 
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> 
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> 
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
> 
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Wegner
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net


From kenfisher1942 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:34:25 2026
From: kenfisher1942 at gmail.com (Ken Fisher)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen


Agree. Ken






> 
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>> 
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>> 
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> 
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> 
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>> 
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tim Wegner
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net


From jstanfieldica at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:39:52 2026
From: jstanfieldica at gmail.com (jstanfieldica)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c@mx.google.com>

I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
-------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing listDialogue at lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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From diann.mccabe at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:41:35 2026
From: diann.mccabe at gmail.com (Diann McCabe)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856@gmail.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65@gmail.com>
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Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
Diann McCabe

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

>
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
>
> Agree. Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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From diann.mccabe at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:41:35 2026
From: diann.mccabe at gmail.com (Diann McCabe)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856@gmail.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65@gmail.com>
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Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
Diann McCabe

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

>
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
>
> Agree. Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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From richard.alton at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:52:55 2026
From: richard.alton at gmail.com (Richard Alton)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>


-- 
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ICA Global Fund
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From zbarley at earthlink.net  Mon May 25 13:58:16 2026
From: zbarley at earthlink.net (zbarley at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:58:16 -0600
Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
Message-ID: <7e03ff1c-675f-46ed-9ae4-f0337422e862@localhost>

Sorry to hear the host is ending. I would favor a continuation. As a pre ica order member the single ica name doesn't fit but at 87 I'm even more of a dying breed.

Sent using myEarthLink

On Mon May 25 14:12:32 MDT 2026 Timothy Wegner via OE wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.

I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.

1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.

2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?

The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.

Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.

Thanks,

Tim Wegner

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From maricrocker at gmail.com  Mon May 25 13:58:33 2026
From: maricrocker at gmail.com (Mari Crocker)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:58:33 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue.  Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn

> On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
> 
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
> 
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> 
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> 
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
> 
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Wegner
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net


From lindaandmilan at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:01:25 2026
From: lindaandmilan at gmail.com (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:01:25 -0700
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From saf1220 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:06:43 2026
From: saf1220 at gmail.com (Sharon Fisher)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:06:43 -0700
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <71199538-A9BC-4488-9D21-FCF8A7637AE6@gmail.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes. New host with one list. ICA Dialogue is okay. (oe-ica) would work for
me, too.

Sharon

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:03?PM Mari Crocker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

> I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue.  Tim, would you be willing to
> spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from
> the rest of us?  Marilyn
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>


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From: saf1220 at gmail.com (Sharon Fisher)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:06:43 -0700
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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Yes. New host with one list. ICA Dialogue is okay. (oe-ica) would work for
me, too.

Sharon

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:03?PM Mari Crocker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

> I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue.  Tim, would you be willing to
> spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from
> the rest of us?  Marilyn
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>


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From vscott at gsu.edu  Mon May 25 14:26:12 2026
From: vscott at gsu.edu (Vincente S Scott)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 21:26:12 +0000
Subject: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
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Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.

 BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.

So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott

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________________________________
From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested

I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.

I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.

1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.

2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?

The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.

Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.

Thanks,

Tim Wegner


_______________________________________________
Dialogue mailing list
Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net


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United Methodist Creation Care
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From sethlongacre at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:29:21 2026
From: sethlongacre at gmail.com (Seth Longacre)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 22:29:21 +0100
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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I also would very much like the list to continue. A single list. I like ICA Dialogue, but I?m not really attached.

  Seth T. Longacre
  Set?bal, Portugal

Unapologetically committed to equality, diversity, compassion, love, and justice.

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> No dia 25 de mai. de 2026, ?s 22:06, Sharon Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> escreveu:
> 
> Yes. New host with one list. ICA Dialogue is okay. (oe-ica) would work for me, too.
> 
> Sharon
> 
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:03?PM Mari Crocker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
>> I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue.  Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>> 
>> > On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>> > 
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>> > 
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> > 
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> > 
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>> > 
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> > 
>> > Thanks,
>> > 
>> > Tim Wegner
>> > 
>> > 
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> OE mailing list
>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
> 
> 
> 
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From shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com  Mon May 25 14:35:24 2026
From: shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com (Shelley Hahn)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
 mailing lists, input requested
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?

Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!

Fond regards,
Shelley Hahn

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I
> can offer no helpful response.
>
>  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
> contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>
> *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> your work. Vincente Scott
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community
> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> input requested
>
> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
>
>
> --
> Richard H. T. Alton
> ICA Global Fund
> United Methodist Creation Care
> Behold, all things are being made anew
> T: 773.344.7172
> richard.alton at gmail.com
>
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From: shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com (Shelley Hahn)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?

Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!

Fond regards,
Shelley Hahn

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I
> can offer no helpful response.
>
>  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
> contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>
> *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> your work. Vincente Scott
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical Community
> <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> input requested
>
> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
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From tim at tswegner.net  Mon May 25 14:57:10 2026
From: tim at tswegner.net (Timothy Wegner)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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Marilyn asked:

Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
> past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn


Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am
getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
call the new list.

I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would
be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
wedgeblade.net domain, which I own.  There are good suggestions here for
the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like
the consensus. Stay tuned!

We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.

Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.

Tim
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From kenfisher1942 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 15:00:52 2026
From: kenfisher1942 at gmail.com (Ken Fisher)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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Yay, Tim !!!
? ever appreciative, Ken

> On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Marilyn asked:
> 
>> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
> 
> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to call the new list.  
> 
> I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own.  There are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
> 
> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
> 
> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
> 
> Tim
> _______________________________________________
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> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
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From richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net  Mon May 25 15:05:04 2026
From: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net (Richard and Maria Maguire)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested (Timothy Wegner)
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HI Tim

Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list 
continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> 	<dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> 	requested
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> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will
> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason
> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> 	<tim at tswegner.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim Wegner
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> 	Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
> Agree. Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>>
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>>
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>>
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tim Wegner
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> 	Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> 	input requested
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> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise li
>   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgebla
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> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> 	<kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> Diann McCabe
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>
>> Agree. Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> _______________________________________________
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> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> 	<kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> Diann McCabe
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>
>> Agree. Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> 	<tim at tswegner.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> 	input requested
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> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
>> that date.
>>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> weigh in.
>>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
>> or oe-ica?
>>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim Wegner
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>
>

From jfwiegel at yahoo.com  Mon May 25 15:36:14 2026
From: jfwiegel at yahoo.com (James Wiegel)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested (Timothy Wegner)
References: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9@yahoo.com>

?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
Jim Wiegel
??the long work
of turning their lives
into a celebration
is not easy. Come and let us talk?. 

The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver


> On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> ?HI Tim
> 
> Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one list continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
> 
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>>    1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
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>>       requested (Karen Snyder)
>>    3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (Ken Fisher)
>>    4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (jstanfieldica)
>>    5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (Diann McCabe)
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>>   16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (Seth Longacre)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>>    <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>    requested
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
>> that date.
>> 
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> weigh in.
>> 
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will
>> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
>> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> 
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
>> or oe-ica?
>> 
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason
>> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>> larger community.
>> 
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Tim Wegner
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
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>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim Wegner
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
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>> 
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> 
>> Agree. Ken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise li
>>  st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgebla
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>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID:
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>> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> Diann McCabe
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> Agree. Ken
>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>>> on that date.
>>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to weigh in.
>>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OE mailing list
>>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID:
>>    <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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>> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> Diann McCabe
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> Agree. Ken
>>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>>> on that date.
>>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to weigh in.
>>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>    input requested
>> Message-ID:
>>    <CABsV-y9bRT9Xm96PY1keNZ+3-7muAQsJWFRRU-S5Zq7UcTaCTQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
>>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
>>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
>>> that date.
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>>> weigh in.
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
>>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
>>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
>>> or oe-ica?
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
>>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
>>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tim Wegner
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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From beretgriffith at gmail.com  Mon May 25 15:50:31 2026
From: beretgriffith at gmail.com (Beret Griffith)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:50:31 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested (Timothy Wegner)
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Also favor 1 list.

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:05?PM Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> HI Tim
>
> Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one list
> continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>
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> >     1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
> >     2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Karen Snyder)
> >     3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Ken Fisher)
> >     4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (jstanfieldica)
> >     5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
> >     6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
> >     7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Richard Alton)
> >     8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
> >        (zbarley at earthlink.net)
> >     9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Mari Crocker)
> >    10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >    11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >    12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >    13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
> >    14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
> >    15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> >        lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
> >    16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Seth Longacre)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> >       <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >       requested
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will
> > cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason
> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> > larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> >
> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >
> > Agree. Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>>
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>>
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>>
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise li
> >   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgebla
> >   de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing
> listDialogue at lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID:
> >       <
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> >> weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >> or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>
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From balmkevin at gmail.com  Mon May 25 16:41:34 2026
From: balmkevin at gmail.com (balmkevin at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 09:41:34 +1000
Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested (Timothy Wegner)
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References: <mailman.9553.1779744577.3494712.oe-wedgeblade.net@lists.wedgeblade.net>
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I too support one list. I can live with any name agreed to.

Kevin

 

From: OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> On Behalf Of Beret Griffith via OE
Sent: Tuesday, 26 May 2026 8:51 AM
To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net; Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: Beret Griffith <beretgriffith at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)

 

Also favor 1 list. 

 

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:05?PM Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:

HI Tim

Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one list 
continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.

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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net <mailto:tim at tswegner.net> >
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> >, Dialogue List
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> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will
> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason
> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
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> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com <mailto:karen.snyder10 at gmail.com> >
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> >, Timothy Wegner
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> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim Wegner
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com <mailto:kenfisher1942 at gmail.com> >
> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com <mailto:karen.snyder10 at gmail.com> >, Order Ecumenical
>       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> >
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>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>
> Agree. Ken
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>>>
>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>>>
>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>
>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>
>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
>>>
>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tim Wegner
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com <mailto:jstanfieldica at gmail.com> >
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com <mailto:karen.snyder10 at gmail.com> >, Order Ecumenical
>       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> >
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>       input requested
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> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com <mailto:karen.snyder10 at gmail.com> >, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> > Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise li
>   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > > _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgebla
>   de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing listDialogue at lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net <http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net> 
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com <mailto:diann.mccabe at gmail.com> >
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >, Ken Fisher
>       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com <mailto:kenfisher1942 at gmail.com> >,  Order Ecumenical Community
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> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> Diann McCabe
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>
>> Agree. Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> _______________________________________________
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> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >, Ken Fisher
>       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com <mailto:kenfisher1942 at gmail.com> >,  Order Ecumenical Community
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> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> Diann McCabe
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>
>> Agree. Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim Wegner
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com <mailto:richard.alton at gmail.com> >
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> >
> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net <mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net> >, Timothy Wegner
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> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:
>
>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
>> that date.
>>
>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> weigh in.
>>
>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>
>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
>> or oe-ica?
>>
>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>>
>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim Wegner
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Dialogue mailing list
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>
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 I'm for option 2.? Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is important to me.? I'm not fussy about what to call it.Carleton StockOberlin, Ohio
    On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:   

 Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing?lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July?21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
I want to discuss some options, and I would?very much like folks here to weigh in.
1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.?Terry Bergdal?has opted to do this for?his Earthrise list. I am?open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a?way to communicate life transitions to the? larger community.
Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the lists.
Thanks,
Tim Wegner

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From paula.philbrook at gmail.com  Mon May 25 17:21:53 2026
From: paula.philbrook at gmail.com (Paula Philbrook)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 19:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <1161566838.5057983.1779753258735@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection!

Merge into one list send responsible.

Names are symbolic.  The wedge blade was a common symbol of both
organizationally but it doesn?t resonate with me right now.

I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different
plan.


Paula  Philbrook

Personal Mission Statement: *I nurture love, peace & harmony in every
situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious
planet.*

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55?PM carletonstock--- via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> I'm for option 2.  Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is
> important to me.  I'm not fussy about what to call it.
> Carleton Stock
> Oberlin, Ohio
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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From paula.philbrook at gmail.com  Mon May 25 17:21:53 2026
From: paula.philbrook at gmail.com (Paula Philbrook)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 19:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <1161566838.5057983.1779753258735@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you Tim for nurturing us all these years with connection!

Merge into one list send responsible.

Names are symbolic.  The wedge blade was a common symbol of both
organizationally but it doesn?t resonate with me right now.

I am in favor of OE~ICA holding the space for now until we have a different
plan.


Paula  Philbrook

Personal Mission Statement: *I nurture love, peace & harmony in every
situation for my caring family, disempowered communities, and our precious
planet.*

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55?PM carletonstock--- via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> I'm for option 2.  Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is
> important to me.  I'm not fussy about what to call it.
> Carleton Stock
> Oberlin, Ohio
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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From beretgriffith at gmail.com  Mon May 25 17:22:17 2026
From: beretgriffith at gmail.com (Beret Griffith)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 19:22:17 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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Both Paul Noah have appreciated being in contact through the lists. One
list would work.
Beret Griffith & Paul Noah

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55?PM carletonstock--- via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> I'm for option 2.  Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is
> important to me.  I'm not fussy about what to call it.
> Carleton Stock
> Oberlin, Ohio
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>
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From beretgriffith at gmail.com  Mon May 25 17:22:17 2026
From: beretgriffith at gmail.com (Beret Griffith)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 19:22:17 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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Message-ID: <CANeF6GcEw0_+cif2Esz5dTAVZWVg=LoQxhuo4iuffafxHZLqPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Both Paul Noah have appreciated being in contact through the lists. One
list would work.
Beret Griffith & Paul Noah

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:55?PM carletonstock--- via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> I'm for option 2.  Keeping in touch with the Order/Institute folk is
> important to me.  I'm not fussy about what to call it.
> Carleton Stock
> Oberlin, Ohio
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 03:12:20 PM CDT, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just
> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on
> that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue,
> or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I
> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call
> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>
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From jkjmbarker at bigpond.com  Mon May 25 18:09:17 2026
From: jkjmbarker at bigpond.com (Jonathan Barker)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 10:39:17 +0930
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
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From jonzondo at juno.com  Mon May 25 18:08:00 2026
From: jonzondo at juno.com (jonzondo at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 01:08:00 GMT
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
	input re	quested
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I like keeping in touch.One list - ICA dialogue.Jon Elizondo (2nd generation) 

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From: Sharon Fisher via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: Sharon Fisher <saf1220 at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:06:43 -0700


Yes. New host with one list. ICA Dialogue is okay. (oe-ica) would work for me, too. Sharon 
On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 2:03&#8239;PM Mari Crocker via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:I agree - new host, one list ICA Dialogue.  Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
 
 > On May 25, 2026, at 4:10 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
 > 
 > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
 > 
 > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
 > 
 > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
 > 
 > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
 > 
 > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
 > 
 > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
 > 
 > Thanks,
 > 
 > Tim Wegner
 > 
 > 
 > _______________________________________________
 > Dialogue mailing list
 > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
 > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
 
 _______________________________________________
 OE mailing list
 OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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From bparker1251963 at gmail.com  Mon May 25 18:48:50 2026
From: bparker1251963 at gmail.com (Bill Parker)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 20:48:50 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
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I hope we can have a way to stay connected as the Orders Ecumenical, or what ever we name it.  I?m unclear as to which option is the best but I trust your wisdom with others input the best solution for us to stay connected. 
Bill Parker 


> On May 25, 2026, at 3:12?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
> 
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
> 
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> 
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> 
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
> 
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Wegner
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net

From sfertig at blueskytech.us  Mon May 25 18:50:56 2026
From: sfertig at blueskytech.us (Susan Fertig)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 01:50:56 +0000
Subject: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
 mailing lists, input requested
In-Reply-To: <CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree with one list, and please keep OE in the name (that's what it was when I got involved). OE/ICA or something like it.

Thank you Tim for your ongoing service.

Susan

S. Fertig-Dykes

And the Lord shall guide thee and satisfy thy soul in drought. Isaiah 58:11


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From: OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of Shelley Hahn via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2026 5:35:24 PM
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested

I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?

Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!

Fond regards,
Shelley Hahn

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.

 BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.

So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott

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From: Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net>> on behalf of Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>>
Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>>
Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com<mailto:richard.alton at gmail.com>>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net>>
Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested

I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.

I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.

1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.

2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?

The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.

Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.

Thanks,

Tim Wegner


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From sfertig at blueskytech.us  Mon May 25 18:50:56 2026
From: sfertig at blueskytech.us (Susan Fertig)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 01:50:56 +0000
Subject: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
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I agree with one list, and please keep OE in the name (that's what it was when I got involved). OE/ICA or something like it.

Thank you Tim for your ongoing service.

Susan

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I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?

Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!

Fond regards,
Shelley Hahn

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that I can offer no helpful response.

 BUT I DO KNOW THIS: contact with members of the Current-Once & Future EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.

So, for the next weeks, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for your work. Vincente Scott

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Sent: Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>>
Cc: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com<mailto:richard.alton at gmail.com>>; Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net<mailto:OE at wedgeblade.net>>
Subject: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested

I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick

On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net<mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>> wrote:
Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.

I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.

1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.

2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?

The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.

Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.

Thanks,

Tim Wegner


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From elsabengel at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:21:31 2026
From: elsabengel at gmail.com (Elsa Bengel)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 22:21:31 -0400
Subject: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
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Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope we
can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance, protest
and vision.
Elsa Bengel


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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>         mailing lists, input requested
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> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>
> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>
> Fond regards,
> Shelley Hahn
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that
> I
> > can offer no helpful response.
> >
> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
> >
> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> > your work. Vincente Scott
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
> Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> > the  larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard H. T. Alton
> > ICA Global Fund
> > United Methodist Creation Care
> > Behold, all things are being made anew
> > T: 773.344.7172
> > richard.alton at gmail.com
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> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
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> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>
> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>
> Fond regards,
> Shelley Hahn
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability of
> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists that
> I
> > can offer no helpful response.
> >
> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
> >
> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
> > your work. Vincente Scott
> >
> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
> Community
> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> > input requested
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> > the  larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Richard H. T. Alton
> > ICA Global Fund
> > United Methodist Creation Care
> > Behold, all things are being made anew
> > T: 773.344.7172
> > richard.alton at gmail.com
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> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>         <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
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> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> To: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>
> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,
>         "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>         input requested
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> Marilyn asked:
>
> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
> > past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>
>
> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am
> getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
> call the new list.
>
> I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost would
> be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
> wedgeblade.net domain, which I own.  There are good suggestions here for
> the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like
> the consensus. Stay tuned!
>
> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same
> people.
>
> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>
> Tim
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> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Cc: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>, Timothy Wegner
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> Yay, Tim !!!
> ? ever appreciative, Ken
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> > Marilyn asked:
> >
> >> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
> past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
> >
> > Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I
> am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
> call the new list.
> >
> > I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
> would be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use
> the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own.  There
> are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days
> I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
> >
> > We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
> >
> > Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
> >
> > Tim
> > _______________________________________________
> > Dialogue mailing list
> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
> From: Richard and Maria Maguire <richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net>
> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
> Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
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> HI Tim
>
> Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list
> continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>
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> >     1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
> >     2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Karen Snyder)
> >     3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Ken Fisher)
> >     4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (jstanfieldica)
> >     5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
> >     6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
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> >        requested (Richard Alton)
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> >        (zbarley at earthlink.net)
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> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
> >    13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
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> >    14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
> >    15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
> >        lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
> >    16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >        requested (Seth Longacre)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> >       <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >       requested
> > Message-ID:
> >       <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=
> 1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21,
> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> > that date.
> >
> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> > weigh in.
> >
> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will
> > cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >
> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we
> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists
> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> > or oe-ica?
> >
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason
> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> > larger community.
> >
> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but
> I
> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Wegner
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> >
> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> >
> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >
> > Agree. Ken
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>>
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>>
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>>
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>  li
> >   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
>  bla
> >   de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
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> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> > Diann McCabe
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end
> >> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OE mailing list
> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >       input requested
> > Message-ID:
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >
> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> >> weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >> or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >> the  larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Dialogue mailing list
> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
> To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net, Order Ecumenical Community
>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
> Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9 at yahoo.com>
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> ?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good
> number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
> Jim Wiegel
> ??the long work
> of turning their lives
> into a celebration
> is not easy. Come and let us talk?.
>
> The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
>
>
> > On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> > ?HI Tim
> >
> > Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one list
> continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
> >
> > On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
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> >>    1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
> >>    2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >>       requested (Karen Snyder)
> >>    3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >>       requested (Ken Fisher)
> >>    4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >>       requested (jstanfieldica)
> >>    5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >>       requested (Diann McCabe)
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> >>       requested (Seth Longacre)
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
> >> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
> >>    <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
> >>    requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >>    <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on
> >> that date.
> >>
> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
> >> weigh in.
> >>
> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will
> >> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
> >> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>
> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >> or oe-ica?
> >>
> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason
> >> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
> >> larger community.
> >>
> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Tim Wegner
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> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
> >> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
> >> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> >> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>
> >> Agree. Ken
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
> on that date.
> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to weigh in.
> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the  larger community.
> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
> >> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>   li
> >>  st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
>  bla
> >>  de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue mailing
> listDialogue at lists.wedgeblade.nethttp://
> lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >>    <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> >> Diann McCabe
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>> Agree. Ken
> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end
> >>> on that date.
> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >>> to weigh in.
> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for
> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If
> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the  larger community.
> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
> (and
> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OE mailing list
> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >>    <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
> >> Diann McCabe
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
> >>> Agree. Ken
> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
> July
> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
> will end
> >>> on that date.
> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> >>> to weigh in.
> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
> lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> for
> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
> If
> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the  larger community.
> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
> (and
> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Tim Wegner
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> OE mailing list
> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
> >> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
> >>    input requested
> >> Message-ID:
> >>    <CABsV-y9bRT9Xm96PY1keNZ+3-7muAQsJWFRRU-S5Zq7UcTaCTQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> >> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
> just
> >>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
> 21,
> >>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
> end on
> >>> that date.
> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
> to
> >>> weigh in.
> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
> >>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
> we
> >>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
> lists
> >>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
> >>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
> oe-dialogue,
> >>> or oe-ica?
> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
> >>> the  larger community.
> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
> but I
> >>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
> appreciate
> >>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
> call
> >>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tim Wegner
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Dialogue mailing list
> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
> > _______________________________________________
> > OE mailing list
> > OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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From beretgriffith at gmail.com  Mon May 25 19:36:22 2026
From: beretgriffith at gmail.com (Beret Griffith)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 21:36:22 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
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References: <mailman.9460.1779748593.3494714.oe-wedgeblade.net@lists.wedgeblade.net>
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O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat
opportunity for continuing colleague contact.
Beret & Paul

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22?PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

> Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope
> we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance,
> protest and vision.
> Elsa Bengel
>
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 6:38?PM <oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
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>>    1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>       lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>>    2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>       lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>>    3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>       lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>>    4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>       lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>>    5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (Timothy Wegner)
>>    6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>       requested (Ken Fisher)
>>    7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
>>       Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire)
>>    8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>>       (Timothy Wegner) (James Wiegel)
>>
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>>         mailing lists, input requested
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> CA+Ws0_a0yjsLSQwrJ9_a+Hw0VDRk-g4ciEOibmT5H3Wjd2YB9Q at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
>> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>>
>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> Shelley Hahn
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>> of
>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>> that I
>> > can offer no helpful response.
>> >
>> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>> >
>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>> Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> >
>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> > the  larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Richard H. T. Alton
>> > ICA Global Fund
>> > United Methodist Creation Care
>> > Behold, all things are being made anew
>> > T: 773.344.7172
>> > richard.alton at gmail.com
>> >
>> > CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do
>> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> > know the content is safe.
>> > s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>>         mailing lists, input requested
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
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>>
>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like one
>> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for a
>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>>
>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>
>> Fond regards,
>> Shelley Hahn
>>
>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>> of
>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>> that I
>> > can offer no helpful response.
>> >
>> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once & Future
>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>> >
>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>> >
>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>> Community
>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> > input requested
>> >
>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> > the  larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Richard H. T. Alton
>> > ICA Global Fund
>> > United Methodist Creation Care
>> > Behold, all things are being made anew
>> > T: 773.344.7172
>> > richard.alton at gmail.com
>> >
>> > CAUTION: This email was sent from someone outside of the university. Do
>> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> > know the content is safe.
>> > s61A4ef3l74X5Sa77QJi
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OE mailing list
>> > OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>>         <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>         <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>>         <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>         <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>>         mailing lists, input requested
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
>> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> To: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,
>>         "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>         input requested
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> CAFLr275ZPf+a+HHfv487QYteQV-YhBbc6pi0VGSL9UUhyOejLQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Marilyn asked:
>>
>> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>> > past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>>
>>
>> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I am
>> getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
>> call the new list.
>>
>> I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>> would
>> be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
>> wedgeblade.net domain, which I own.  There are good suggestions here for
>> the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks like
>> the consensus. Stay tuned!
>>
>> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same
>> people.
>>
>> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>>
>> Tim
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
>> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>, Timothy Wegner
>>         <tim at tswegner.net>, "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>         input requested
>> Message-ID: <EDD33422-E025-4B53-84A5-57501D94F6F9 at gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Yay, Tim !!!
>> ? ever appreciative, Ken
>>
>> > On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Marilyn asked:
>> >
>> >> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>> past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>> >
>> > Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I
>> am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
>> call the new list.
>> >
>> > I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>> would be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use
>> the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own.  There
>> are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days
>> I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
>> >
>> > We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
>> >
>> > Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>> >
>> > Tim
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Dialogue mailing list
>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
>> From: Richard and Maria Maguire <richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net>
>> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> Message-ID:
>>         <87633c7c-e24d-4924-aad0-db494377c52b at unfoldingfutures.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> HI Tim
>>
>> Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list
>> continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>>
>> On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
>> > Send OE mailing list submissions to
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>> >
>> >     1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> >     2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Karen Snyder)
>> >     3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Ken Fisher)
>> >     4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (jstanfieldica)
>> >     5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
>> >     6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
>> >     7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Richard Alton)
>> >     8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>> >        (zbarley at earthlink.net)
>> >     9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Mari Crocker)
>> >    10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >    11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >    12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >    13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >    14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >    15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> >        lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
>> >    16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >        requested (Seth Longacre)
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>> >       <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >       requested
>> > Message-ID:
>> >       <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=
>> 1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on
>> > that date.
>> >
>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to
>> > weigh in.
>> >
>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will
>> > cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
>> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >
>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> > or oe-ica?
>> >
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason
>> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>> > larger community.
>> >
>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate
>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tim Wegner
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>> >
>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
>> > Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
>> >
>> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >
>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
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>> > Message: 3
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
>> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >
>> > Agree. Ken
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>>
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >
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>> >
>> > Message: 4
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
>> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >
>> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
>> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
>> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
>> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
>> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
>> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
>> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>>  li
>> >   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
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>> > Message: 5
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
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>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> > Diann McCabe
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >> on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> >> to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for
>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the  larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> > Message: 6
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> > Diann McCabe
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >> on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> >> to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for
>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the  larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> OE mailing list
>> >> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> > Message: 7
>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >       input requested
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >> that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >> weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >> or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> >> the  larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
>> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
>> To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net, Order Ecumenical Community
>>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9 at yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> ?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good
>> number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
>> Jim Wiegel
>> ??the long work
>> of turning their lives
>> into a celebration
>> is not easy. Come and let us talk?.
>>
>> The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
>>
>>
>> > On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> > ?HI Tim
>> >
>> > Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one
>> list continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>> >
>> > On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
>> >> Send OE mailing list submissions to
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>> >>
>> >>    1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy Wegner)
>> >>    2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Karen Snyder)
>> >>    3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Ken Fisher)
>> >>    4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (jstanfieldica)
>> >>    5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Diann McCabe)
>> >>    6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Diann McCabe)
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>> >>       requested (Richard Alton)
>> >>    8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>> >>       (zbarley at earthlink.net)
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>> >>       requested (Mari Crocker)
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>> >>       requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
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>> >>       requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
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>> >>       requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>> >>   13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >>   14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Sharon Fisher)
>> >>   15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>> >>       lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
>> >>   16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>       requested (Seth Longacre)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>> >> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>> >>    <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>> >>    requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >> that date.
>> >>
>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >> weigh in.
>> >>
>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> will
>> >> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
>> >> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>
>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>> we
>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >> or oe-ica?
>> >>
>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason
>> >> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>> >> larger community.
>> >>
>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Tim Wegner
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>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>> >> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
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>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>> on that date.
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to weigh in.
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>> >> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>
>> >> Agree. Ken
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.
>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here to weigh in.
>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the  larger community.
>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>> >> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>> >> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder <
>> karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested I
>> would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.? Karen> On May 25, 2026, at
>> 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end on that date.> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very
>> much like folks here to weigh in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing,
>> which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry
>> Bergdal? has opted to do this for his Earthrise
>>   li
>> >>  st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
>> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
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>> >> Message: 5
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> >> Diann McCabe
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>> Agree. Ken
>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists,
>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >>> on that date.
>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here
>> >>> to weigh in.
>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for
>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>> list
>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the  larger community.
>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> >> Message: 6
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <CANyB-Yi9KgoMnzWabVnfugbVupL0UD37qN14KJcFJ8MD4fx6DQ at mail.gmail.com
>> >
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>
>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>> >> Diann McCabe
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>> >>> Agree. Ken
>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>> lists,
>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>> July
>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>> will end
>> >>> on that date.
>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>> here
>> >>> to weigh in.
>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>> lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> for
>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If
>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>> list
>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the  larger community.
>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>> (and
>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>> >> Message: 7
>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>> >> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>> >>    input requested
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <CABsV-y9bRT9Xm96PY1keNZ+3-7muAQsJWFRRU-S5Zq7UcTaCTQ at mail.gmail.com
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>> >> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>> just
>> >>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>> 21,
>> >>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>> end on
>> >>> that date.
>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>> to
>> >>> weigh in.
>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>> >>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>> If we
>> >>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>> lists
>> >>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>> >>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>> oe-dialogue,
>> >>> or oe-ica?
>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>> to
>> >>> the  larger community.
>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>> but I
>> >>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>> appreciate
>> >>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>> call
>> >>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Tim Wegner
>> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>> > _______________________________________________
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From: beretgriffith at gmail.com (Beret Griffith)
Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 21:57:28 -0500
Subject: [Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
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One List - Great!
Beret Griffith
& Paul Noah Noah.pnoah at gmail.com
Beretgriffith at gmail.com
Thankyou
Beret

On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:36?PM Beret Griffith <beretgriffith at gmail.com>
wrote:

> O:E Dialogue combo will work for Paul Noah and myself. We appreciat
> opportunity for continuing colleague contact.
> Beret & Paul
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 9:22?PM Elsa Bengel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Wow. Not much time Tim. One list is best. In these painful times, I hope
>> we can continue not only for life transitions but also for resistance,
>> protest and vision.
>> Elsa Bengel
>>
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
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>>
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>>>    1. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>>       lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>>>    2. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>>       lists, input requested (Shelley Hahn)
>>>    3. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>>       lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>>>    4. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>>       lists, input requested (David Marshall)
>>>    5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>>       requested (Timothy Wegner)
>>>    6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>>       requested (Ken Fisher)
>>>    7. 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
>>>       Wegner) (Richard and Maria Maguire)
>>>    8. Re: 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>>>       (Timothy Wegner) (James Wiegel)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>>>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>>>         mailing lists, input requested
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <
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>>>
>>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like
>>> one
>>> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for
>>> a
>>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>>> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>>
>>> Fond regards,
>>> Shelley Hahn
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>>> of
>>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>>> that I
>>> > can offer no helpful response.
>>> >
>>> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once &
>>> Future
>>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
>>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>>> >
>>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>>> Community
>>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> > input requested
>>> >
>>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just
>>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21,
>>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> > that date.
>>> >
>>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to
>>> > weigh in.
>>> >
>>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >
>>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>>> we
>>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> > or oe-ica?
>>> >
>>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> > the  larger community.
>>> >
>>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>>> call
>>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Tim Wegner
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Dialogue mailing list
>>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> >
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 17:35:24 -0400
>>> From: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>
>>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,  Order
>>>         Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of
>>>         mailing lists, input requested
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <
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>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> I hate the idea of losing this dialogue altogether.  It does seem like
>>> one
>>> email thread would be adequate.  As a 2G member, my interest is actually
>>> more on the OE side than ICA, so while it's just semantics, I'd vote for
>>> a
>>> name that includes OE. Maybe OE/ICA Dialogue? I'm certainly not going to
>>> stomp off in  huff if you choose to just use ICA.  ?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for all you have done and continue to do, Tim!
>>>
>>> Fond regards,
>>> Shelley Hahn
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 25, 2026, 5:29?PM Vincente S Scott via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Tim and Richard, thank you for letting us know about the vulnerability
>>> of
>>> > losing mailing lists. Frankly, I know so little about mailing lists
>>> that I
>>> > can offer no helpful response.
>>> >
>>> >  *BUT I DO KNOW THIS: *contact with members of the Current-Once &
>>> Future
>>> > EI /OE/ICA is of tremendous value.  Dialogue among our colleagues
>>> > contributes greatly to my physical and mental health. Maybe it also
>>> > contributes to the world's health. Written access is vital.
>>> >
>>> > *So, for the next weeks*, I will seek to correct my ignorance. Learn
>>> > about our mailing lists. Make an informed recommendation. Thank you for
>>> > your work. Vincente Scott
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>> > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> > *From:* Dialogue <dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of
>>> > Richard Alton via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Sent:* Monday, 25 May 2026 16:52:55
>>> > *To:* Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Cc:* Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>; Order Ecumenical
>>> Community
>>> > <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> > input requested
>>> >
>>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just
>>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21,
>>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> > that date.
>>> >
>>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to
>>> > weigh in.
>>> >
>>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> > will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> > for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >
>>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>>> we
>>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> > or oe-ica?
>>> >
>>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> > reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> > the  larger community.
>>> >
>>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>>> call
>>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Tim Wegner
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Dialogue mailing list
>>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Richard H. T. Alton
>>> > ICA Global Fund
>>> > United Methodist Creation Care
>>> > Behold, all things are being made anew
>>> > T: 773.344.7172
>>> > richard.alton at gmail.com
>>> >
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>>> > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>>>         <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 14:44:53 -0700
>>> From: David Marshall <davidpaulmarshall1956 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Cc: Shelley Hahn <shelley.l.hahn at gmail.com>, Colleague Dialogue
>>>         <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>>         <oe at wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community
>>>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
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>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:57:10 -0500
>>> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> To: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,
>>>         "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>>         input requested
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <
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>>>
>>> Marilyn asked:
>>>
>>> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>>> > past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what I
>>> am
>>> getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what to
>>> call the new list.
>>>
>>> I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>>> would
>>> be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use the
>>> wedgeblade.net domain, which I own.  There are good suggestions here for
>>> the name of the list itself, after a few days I'll propose what looks
>>> like
>>> the consensus. Stay tuned!
>>>
>>> We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same
>>> people.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>>>
>>> Tim
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>>> Message: 6
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 18:00:52 -0400
>>> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>>> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Cc: Mari Crocker <maricrocker at gmail.com>, Timothy Wegner
>>>         <tim at tswegner.net>, "oe at wedgeblade.net" <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>>         input requested
>>> Message-ID: <EDD33422-E025-4B53-84A5-57501D94F6F9 at gmail.com>
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>>>
>>> Yay, Tim !!!
>>> ? ever appreciative, Ken
>>>
>>> > On May 25, 2026, at 5:57?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Marilyn asked:
>>> >
>>> >> Tim, would you be willing to spearhead that effort as you have in the
>>> past?  What would you need from the rest of us?  Marilyn
>>> >
>>> > Yes I can spearhead starting a new list. The main help I need is what
>>> I am getting here: expression of the desire to continue and ideas for what
>>> to call the new list.
>>> >
>>> > I am looking  at https://www.mailmanlists.net/ as the host. The cost
>>> would be  $51.61 a year total, which I will happily pay. We can still use
>>> the wedgeblade.net <http://wedgeblade.net/> domain, which I own.  There
>>> are good suggestions here for the name of the list itself, after a few days
>>> I'll propose what looks like the consensus. Stay tuned!
>>> >
>>> > We have until July 21st, but since the new list will likely have a
>>> different name than either existing list, I can start it before the old
>>> lists expire. My plan is to move all the members from both lists into the
>>> new list. There are about 174 in each list, probably mostly the same people.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for all the responses! Keep posting suggestions and questions.
>>> >
>>> > Tim
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Dialogue mailing list
>>> > Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> > http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
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>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 08:05:04 +1000
>>> From: Richard and Maria Maguire <richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net>
>>> To: oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
>>> Message-ID:
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>>>
>>> HI Tim
>>>
>>> Thank you for your work over the years.? I would be in favor of one list
>>> continuing.? Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>>>
>>> On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
>>> > Send OE mailing list submissions to
>>> >       oe at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>>> > Today's Topics:
>>> >
>>> >     1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
>>> Wegner)
>>> >     2. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Karen Snyder)
>>> >     3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Ken Fisher)
>>> >     4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (jstanfieldica)
>>> >     5. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
>>> >     6. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Diann McCabe)
>>> >     7. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Richard Alton)
>>> >     8. Re: End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested
>>> >        (zbarley at earthlink.net)
>>> >     9. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Mari Crocker)
>>> >    10. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>>> >    11. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>>> >    12. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Linda and Milan Hamilton)
>>> >    13. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
>>> >    14. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Sharon Fisher)
>>> >    15. Re: [External] Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>> >        lists, input requested (Vincente S Scott)
>>> >    16. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >        requested (Seth Longacre)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 1
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>>> > From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>>> >       <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >       requested
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >       <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=
>>> 1jnE+WnRNcCQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >
>>> > Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just
>>> > informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21,
>>> > 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> > that date.
>>> >
>>> > I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to
>>> > weigh in.
>>> >
>>> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> will
>>> > cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his
>>> > Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >
>>> > 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If
>>> we
>>> > do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> > (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> > suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> > or oe-ica?
>>> >
>>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason
>>> > to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>>> > larger community.
>>> >
>>> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> > had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> > input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>>> call
>>> > it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Tim Wegner
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>>> >
>>> > Message: 2
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>>> > From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID: <0E7E5B8A-84C3-4B6F-AE1C-553145741D65 at gmail.com>
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>>> > I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >
>>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end
>>> on that date.
>>> >>
>>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to weigh in.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>
>>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim Wegner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 3
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>>> > From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset=utf-8
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >
>>> > Agree. Ken
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end on that date.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here to weigh in.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Message: 4
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>>> > From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>> >       Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >
>>> > I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>>> > -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder
>>> <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <
>>> OE at wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>> lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.?
>>> Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the
>>> dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are
>>> ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that
>>> unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want
>>> to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh
>>> in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise
>>>  li
>>> >   st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
>>> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
>>>  bla
>>> >   de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue
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>>> > Message: 5
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >       <
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>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >
>>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>>> > Diann McCabe
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>
>>> >> Agree. Ken
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists,
>>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>>> July
>>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end
>>> >> on that date.
>>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here
>>> >> to weigh in.
>>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists
>>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for
>>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If
>>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>>> list
>>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >> the  larger community.
>>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>>> (and
>>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>> > Message: 6
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>>> > From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>> >       <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>> >       <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >       <
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>>> >
>>> > Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>>> > Diann McCabe
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>
>>> >> Agree. Ken
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists,
>>> >> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>>> July
>>> >> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end
>>> >> on that date.
>>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here
>>> >> to weigh in.
>>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists
>>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for
>>> >> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If
>>> >> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> >> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>>> list
>>> >> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> >> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >> the  larger community.
>>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> >> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> >> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>>> (and
>>> >> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>> > Message: 7
>>> > Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>>> > From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>>> > To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> > Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>> >       <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >       input requested
>>> > Message-ID:
>>> >       <
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>>> >
>>> > I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> > dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just
>>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21,
>>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> >> that date.
>>> >>
>>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to
>>> >> weigh in.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists
>>> >> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> >> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we
>>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> >> or oe-ica?
>>> >>
>>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> >> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >> the  larger community.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>>> call
>>> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim Wegner
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 8
>>> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:36:14 -0700
>>> From: James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com>
>>> To: richardandmaria at unfoldingfutures.net, Order Ecumenical Community
>>>         <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] 1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>>         requested (Timothy Wegner)
>>> Message-ID: <B38E451F-3799-48A2-9E55-9554C65974E9 at yahoo.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> ?And though APPEARING to not be much active, there are apparently a good
>>> number just waiting, fingers poised above keyboards to jump in!!
>>> Jim Wiegel
>>> ??the long work
>>> of turning their lives
>>> into a celebration
>>> is not easy. Come and let us talk?.
>>>
>>> The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 25, 2026, at 3:04?PM, Richard and Maria Maguire via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> > ?HI Tim
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for your work over the years.  I would be in favor of one
>>> list continuing.  Dialog sounds fine for me as a name.
>>> >
>>> > On 26/05/2026 7:29 am, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
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>>> >>    1. End of hosting of mailing lists, input requested (Timothy
>>> Wegner)
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>>> >>       requested (Karen Snyder)
>>> >>    3. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >>       requested (Ken Fisher)
>>> >>    4. Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >>       requested (jstanfieldica)
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>>> >>       requested (Seth Longacre)
>>> >>
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>>> >>
>>> >> Message: 1
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:10:19 -0500
>>> >> From: Timothy Wegner <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Dialogue List
>>> >>    <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Subject: [Oe List ...] End of hosting of mailing lists, input
>>> >>    requested
>>> >> Message-ID:
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>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >>
>>> >> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists,
>>> just
>>> >> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July
>>> 21,
>>> >> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> >> that date.
>>> >>
>>> >> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here
>>> to
>>> >> weigh in.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will
>>> >> cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for
>>> his
>>> >> Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we
>>> >> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> >> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will
>>> >> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> >> or oe-ica?
>>> >>
>>> >> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason
>>> >> to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the
>>> >> larger community.
>>> >>
>>> >> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> >> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> >> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to
>>> call
>>> >> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >>
>>> >> Tim Wegner
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>>> >> Message: 2
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:15:32 -0500
>>> >> From: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
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>>> >> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end on that date.
>>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here to weigh in.
>>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> Message: 3
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:34:25 -0400
>>> >> From: Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
>>> >> Message-ID: <71A9E46F-D79F-426E-B81D-ADD823D3F856 at gmail.com>
>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>
>>> >> Agree. Ken
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>>> on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end on that date.
>>> >>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here to weigh in.
>>> >>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least
>>> on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the  larger community.
>>> >>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80
>>> soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and
>>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ------------------------------
>>> >>
>>> >> Message: 4
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 16:39:52 -0400
>>> >> From: jstanfieldica <jstanfieldica at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Karen Snyder <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical
>>> >>    Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
>>> >> Message-ID: <6a14b3a5.0cbb8811.227de.e49c at mx.google.com>
>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >>
>>> >> I agree with Karen.? 1 listserve ICA Dialogue.Jeanette StanfieldSent
>>> from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
>>> >> -------- Original message --------From: Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Date: 2026-05-25  4:17 p.m.  (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> Cc: Karen Snyder
>>> <karen.snyder10 at gmail.com>, Order Ecumenical Community <
>>> OE at wedgeblade.net> Subject: Re: [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing
>>> lists, input requested I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.?
>>> Karen> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:> > Dreamhost, the host of the
>>> dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are
>>> ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that
>>> unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.> > I want
>>> to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh
>>> in.> > 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists will cease to exist on July 21.? Terry Bergdal? has opted to do this
>>> for his Earthrise
>>>   li
>>> >>  st. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.> > 2. The second
>>> option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I
>>> suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally
>>> OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the
>>> only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?>
>>> > The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to
>>> the? larger community.> > Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I
>>> am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more
>>> years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past
>>> July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time? to end both the
>>> lists.> > Thanks,> > Tim Wegner> > >
>>> _______________________________________________> Dialogue mailing list>
>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedge
>>>  bla
>>> >>  de.net_______________________________________________Dialogue
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>>> >> Message: 5
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
>>> >> Message-ID:
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>>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>>> >> Diann McCabe
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>> Agree. Ken
>>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists,
>>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>>> on July
>>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end
>>> >>> on that date.
>>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here
>>> >>> to weigh in.
>>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists
>>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for
>>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both
>>> lists. If
>>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the
>>> two
>>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>>> list
>>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least
>>> on
>>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >>> the  larger community.
>>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80
>>> soon),
>>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>>> (and
>>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> OE mailing list
>>> >>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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>>> >> Message: 6
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:41:35 -0500
>>> >> From: Diann McCabe <diann.mccabe at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Dialogue Lists <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, Ken Fisher
>>> >>    <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>,  Order Ecumenical Community
>>> >>    <OE at wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
>>> >> Message-ID:
>>> >>    <
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>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you--and I agree with Karen's suggestion.
>>> >> Diann McCabe
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:36?PM Ken Fisher via OE <
>>> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>> On May 25, 2026, at 4:15?PM, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <
>>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> I would suggest one list called ?ICA Dialogue?.  Karen
>>> >>> Agree. Ken
>>> >>>>> On May 25, 2026, at 3:10?PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> >>> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists,
>>> >>> just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists
>>> on July
>>> >>> 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists
>>> will end
>>> >>> on that date.
>>> >>>>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here
>>> >>> to weigh in.
>>> >>>>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists
>>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> for
>>> >>> his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>>>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both
>>> lists. If
>>> >>> we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the
>>> two
>>> >>> lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one
>>> list
>>> >>> will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> >>> oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>>> >>>>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least
>>> on
>>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >>> the  larger community.
>>> >>>>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80
>>> soon),
>>> >>> but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> >>> appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st
>>> (and
>>> >>> what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >>
>>> >> Message: 7
>>> >> Date: Mon, 25 May 2026 15:52:55 -0500
>>> >> From: Richard Alton <richard.alton at gmail.com>
>>> >> To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>>> >> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <OE at wedgeblade.net>, Timothy Wegner
>>> >>    <tim at tswegner.net>
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
>>> >>    input requested
>>> >> Message-ID:
>>> >>    <
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>>> >>
>>> >> I would vote for one list with a new host. Dick
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 3:13?PM Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <
>>> >> dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing
>>> lists, just
>>> >>> informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on
>>> July 21,
>>> >>> 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will
>>> end on
>>> >>> that date.
>>> >>> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks
>>> here to
>>> >>> weigh in.
>>> >>> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing
>>> lists
>>> >>> will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this
>>> >>> for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>>> >>> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists.
>>> If we
>>> >>> do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two
>>> lists
>>> >>> (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list
>>> will
>>> >>> suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue,
>>> oe-dialogue,
>>> >>> or oe-ica?
>>> >>> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on
>>> >>> reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions
>>> to
>>> >>> the  larger community.
>>> >>> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon),
>>> but I
>>> >>> had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would
>>> appreciate
>>> >>> input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what
>>> to call
>>> >>> it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Tim Wegner
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Dialogue mailing list
>>> >>> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> >>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > OE mailing list
>>> > OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
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>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OE mailing list
>>> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>>> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> End of OE Digest, Vol 170, Issue 3
>>> **********************************
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From kgillgren at igc.org  Tue May 26 00:01:44 2026
From: kgillgren at igc.org (Ken Gillgren)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 00:01:44 -0700
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Yes, option 2 but encourage maintaining OE in the list name at least for several more years depending on generational turnover.

Thanks for the heads-up.

--
Ken Gillgren
kgillgren at igc.org

> On Monday, May 25, 2026 at 1:11 PM, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net (mailto:dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net)> wrote:
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
>
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
>
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21. Terry Bergdal has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
>
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
>
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the larger community.
>
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time to end both the lists.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim Wegner
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OE mailing list
> OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/oe-wedgeblade.net
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From pschrijnen at aol.com  Mon May 25 21:56:05 2026
From: pschrijnen at aol.com (PAUL SCHRIJNEN)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 06:56:05 +0200
Subject: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] End of hosting of mailing lists,
 input requested
In-Reply-To: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFLr277dcwd_s1FF8R4B4HYPtz0weOvCx-pDn=1jnE+WnRNcCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0DDB1143-977E-45C6-8263-BF586C37B167@aol.com>

Thanks Tim, for making this transition to one list possible with this email. 

Karen suggested ICA Dialogue. Sounds fine with me. 

Paul 

> On 25 May 2026, at 22:10, Timothy Wegner via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Dreamhost, the host of the dialogue, oe, and earthrise mailing lists, just informed me that they are ending support for discussion lists on July 21, 2026. This means that unless we act, these three mailing lists will end on that date.
> 
> I want to discuss some options, and I would very much like folks here to weigh in.
> 
> 1. First option is to do nothing, which means that these mailing lists will cease to exist on July 21.  Terry Bergdal  has opted to do this for his Earthrise list. I am open to ending OE and Dialogue as well.
> 
> 2. The second option is to find another host for one or both lists. If we do this, I suggest one list because the distinction between the two lists (originally OE and ICA) has become very unclear. I think one list will suffice, the only question is what to call it. Maybe dialogue, oe-dialogue, or oe-ica?
> 
> The OE and Dialogue lists are not very active, but I see at least on reason to continue: to provide a way to communicate life transitions to the  larger community.
> 
> Sooner or later these lists would end anyway (I am turning 80 soon), but I had assumed they would continue for a few more years. I would appreciate input on whether one list should continue past July 21st (and what to call it), or if this is a good time  to end both the lists.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim Wegner
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Dialogue mailing list
> Dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net
> http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net


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