[Oe List ...] Furthering our conversation on undocumented immigrants and what to do

PAUL SCHRIJNEN pschrijnen at aol.com
Sat Oct 11 23:36:12 PDT 2025


About overcoming polarisation:

One of my kids alerted me to this conversation between Ezra Klein and Ta-Nehisi Coates on bridging gaps vs drawing lines. A fine conversation, dialogue. Two people inviting the other to explore rather than argue. 
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000728872635	
Ta-Nehisi Coates on Bridging Gaps vs. Drawing Lines
The Ezra Klein Show · 28 September 2025

Paul


Paul Schrijnen
London


> On 11 Oct 2025, at 18:15, Terry Bergdall via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Jim. I found this video to be very interesting. It is one of the few pieces I’ve seen or read that motivates me to look more serious into the positive opportunities that AI might enable. I still have no idea how the “collective intelligence” described in this video actually works, nor how it might be practically applied in a small group like ours, but I am open to giving it a try. Given the animosity I’ve had in general to manipulative aspects of social media and the potential for abuse of AI, that's something. Maybe it’s the beginning of an “image change” for me!
> 
> Terry
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2025, at 11:23, James Wiegel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Judy and I were watching an interview with Audrey Tang(?) Taiwan's Minister of Digital Affairs last night.  She got talking about what has been done in Taiwan to overcome polarization and the lowering of trust in government.  I found this video of hers very stimulating of what democracy could mean moving into the future.  She talks of generating "Collective Intelligence"
>> https://youtu.be/2OGKzOWplyQ
>> 
>> Here is a link to the interview we watched on PBS
>> 
>> https://www.pbs.org/video/audrey-tang-rf1pro/
>> 
>> All this blows my mind a bit, and I wonder if our colleague dialogue andor lists might evolve on this.  Also wondering what efforts are happening in the US and other places
>> 
>> Jim Wiegel
>> “We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “       Stephen Hawking
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