[Oe List ...] A message from Leo

w.schlesinger at pvida.net w.schlesinger at pvida.net
Sat Dec 20 12:11:25 PST 2025


So – as a practicing preacher ( 😉) I start with the text, where it came from and its context – and then what the life issue was within that setting.  Then I talk about the life experience.  I treat it as ORID – but with the O R and I on the text as an ‘art form.’

 

Bill

 

From: Terry Bergdall <bergdall2 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2025 10:41 AM
To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
Cc: w.schlesinger at pvida.net
Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] A message from Leo

 

Bill,

 

I spend almost every Sunday morning “demythologizing” the sermon at my local more-or-less progressive oriented church in real time as it is being delivered. Those sermons often sound very much like the Pope’s message. 

 

On the rare occasions these days that I am asked to deliver a spiritual message, I try to follow the methodology of RS-1, i.e., share insights that spring from life experience before connecting them with traditional religious symbols. See attached (but only if you’re really interested) when I was asked to do the children’s lesson on Transfiguration Sunday a few years ago.

 

Terry





On Dec 20, 2025, at 11:00, Bill Schlesinger via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net <mailto:oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> > wrote:

 

Or did you want the Pope’s comments ‘translated?’  Lots of stuff on the God lecture – popping balloons.  Things that fall apart and don’t sustain meaning.  

 

A sense of a centeredness about being embraced/accepted and living from that perspective.

 

Damage done by living out of ‘lesser gods’ and the willingness to do violence.

 

At least that’s what came through for me.

 

Bill

 

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Subject: [Oe List ...] A message from Leo

 

Can you translate to ICA EI jargon?  Can you translate to every day?   <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.google.com/url?q%3Dhttps://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BKcL27HyT/%26source%3Dgmail-imap%26ust%3D1766846944000000%26usg%3DAOvVaw3aIear5BU7MbdOvGwcZT7y&source=gmail-imap&ust=1766857248000000&usg=AOvVaw1BZ6udEgQKkstPysmqvoL5> https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BKcL27HyT/

Jim Wiegel

 


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