[Oe List ...] If so, then I guess I have to bow out .

Ronnie Seagren ronnie.seagren at gmail.com
Fri Aug 9 15:23:44 PDT 2024


And it is of great importance to be able to talk and inspire across these
artificial divides. We used triangles for a reason: things are rarely
either-or, even if current political debate in the US has been narrowed to
only two positions of late.

Ronnie



On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 3:42 PM Bill Schlesinger via OE <
oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> We don’t need this kind of harshness.
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> We can invite one another to speak their mind, and to hear the concerns
> brought to the table.  And no, the former President’s actions do not meet
> with my approval or appreciation.  But half the country sees him as
> representing their concerns – and that bears an ear.
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> Bill Schlesinger
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> *From:* OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> *On Behalf Of *Ken Fisher
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> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2024 1:15 PM
> *To:* O:E Lists <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc:* Ken Fisher <kenfisher1942 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* [Oe List ...] If so, then I guess I have to bow out .
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> If so, then I guess I have to bow out .
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> Dear Susan,
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> Right after the riots of April ’68, at collegium, on a number of
> occasions, I recall JWM saying, “It’s time for the drones to leave.”
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> Being new to the Order, what I observed was that those who did not have
> their heart in the collective, concensed upon mission of moving beyond the
> assault of the riots, were invited to leave. I recall a woman whose was Kay
> McConathy (from Texas) weeping with Joe and packing her bags. There also
> was a man that I observed leaving as well.
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> Speaking only for myself, I cannot fathom what you get from being on a
> listserv that so clearly and continually supports 'building the earth'
> initiatives. Many of our colleagues on this listserv have already ‘passed
> on’ - giving their last breath to ’the church as social pioneer’. In
> itself, your undying support for Israel against the Palestinians, who you
> have stated are morally, racially, religiously inferior,  disqualifies
> you from this collegiality. Your support for the fascist destroyer of
> worlds is beyond words.
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> I wish you well.
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> Hail and farewell.
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> Ken
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> On Aug 9, 2024, at 2:26 PM, Susan Fertig via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
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> Marshall, is the ICA monolithic? Can only people who vilify Trump and
> ignore the lies on the other side consider themselves members or on the
> march? If so, then I guess I have to bow out
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> *SUSAN*
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> *Susan Fertig-Dykes*
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> *And the Lord shall guide thee continually and satisfy thy soul in
> drought.  Isaiah 58:11*
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> *From:* OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of W. J. via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2024 9:39:59 AM
> *To:* Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Cc:* W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com>
> *Subject:* [Oe List ...] fake candidate
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> Remember Donald Trump? Well, as of today, he's still running! Sort of.
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> So just why did The Donald give an emergency press conference yesterday
> from the Mar-a-lago ballroom? Where Trump would normally *never* be in
> the immediate wake of an August hurricane, no less?
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> Short answer: it's ALL fake, folks!
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> Unlike Trump's Bedminster golf club, Mar-a-lago is gold-plated and
> palatial, evoking subliminal Presidential vibes. Trump can't commandeer the
> White House, but he desperately needs to project maximum Presidential
> impact.
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> So--back to Florida, instead of hitting the campaign trail.
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> The short version of Trump's meandering, unscripted, off-the-cuff
> political diatribe: Trump projects a fake Presidential authority within his
> peculiar House of Cards that's structured as a fragile bubble of
> intersecting lies.
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> At the center of his shocking, defensive display of unacknowledged angst
> is Trump's mental dysfunction of which he is unaware.
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> In other words, Trump's denial of his mental illness, and his inability to
> see clearly that his propensity to live within a fake, constructed reality
> serves only his perceived self-interest, is a significant dimension of his
> mental illness.
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> In short, it's self-destructive, malignant, delusionary narcissism propped
> up by political sycophants who do know better and armies of gullible MAGA
> worshippers who would rather believe Trump's Repugnant lies than confront
> their own personal truth.
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> Trump's not exactly what anyone else would call a "stable genius."
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> Fasten your seat belts, folks! It's already a bumpy election.
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> Marshall Jones
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