[Oe List ...] 8/04/2022, Progressing Spirit: Carl Krieg, Ph.D.: Diversion, Dictatorship and the Concentration of Wealth; Spong revisited

Nancy Trask nlt462 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 4 09:17:41 PDT 2022


Wow - this message is so incredibly important today!  Beautifully well-said.
Nancy T.

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> Essay by Carl Krieg, Ph.D.
> August 4, 2022
> In an op-ed for the NY Times, David Brooks berates the Jan 6 committee for
> focusing on the conspiracy to overthrow the government, analyzing who did
> what when. What we require, he shouts, is a committee that can discover why
> the social movement we call maga believes and acts as they do: promoting a
> stolen election, endorsing violence if necessary to overthrow the
> government, and flouting the norms and values that have been the glue in
> our society for over 200 years. A committee to discover the problem!!
>
> We all know what the problem is. If you consistently deprive people of
> education, health, homes, and hope for a better future, forcing them to
> question their own value and the value of a system that so belittles them,
> then you already know where it leads. A messiah arises who promises
> whatever a beaten down person dreams about, demanding absolute power and
> loyalty, deluding the masses into believing that he cares about them when
> in reality the charade is nothing but self-aggrandizement. Liz Cheney knows
> that the base of the Republican party, followed by party lawmakers, is a
> cult cheering on messiah Trump. We don’t need a committee. We know what the
> problem is.
>
> The solution to the problem is obvious. The wealth of the country must be
> shared. Even some billionaires have said that. Over the course of the
> pandemic millions lost jobs and savings, while the billionaires doubled
> their wealth, increasing their assets by trillions of dollars. Elizabeth
> Warren proposed a tax that would impose a small percentage on wealth over
> 50 million, a proposal shot down as too radical. Trump’s great legislative
> achievement was a tax cut for the super rich, depriving society of funds
> for education, health, housing, and hope. Not too radical there. We know
> what the problem is.
>
> It has been shown that wealth actually changes the structure of a person’s
> brain, destroying a sense of empathy for others while at the same time
> creating a sense of entitlement. I can do what I want, just because I am
> rich. Not only that, but I deserve more. The rich and powerful feel as
> though they deserve even more wealth and power, and need not share any of
> it. This is where we are. On the one hand, the millions with no education,
> no home, no health, and no hope, on the other hand those whose purpose in
> life, admitted or not, is to gather and steal more, wherever it may be
> found. And the folks in the middle are confused about the problem.
>
> The poverty/wealth disparity, determinative as it is, creates a downward
> spiral wherein division and chaos serve the needs of the rich and powerful.
> Public education is a core necessity for a democracy, but it also costs a
> lot of money, money that the haves would just as soon keep for themselves.
> The attempt to kill public education for all involves shifting money to
> private charter schools, where some students are allowed in and others not.
> The current chaos fomented by “cancel culture”, and the cry that parents
> have a right to say what their children learn, is a blatant tactic of white
> nationalism that appeals to the masses by shifting the blame for their
> difficulties away from the rich to people of color. We know what the
> problem is.
>
> One might expect that keeping machine guns out of the hands of the public
> would make us all feel safer, but no. This is an issue capable of creating
> the deep division and chaos that creates opportunity for those with power
> to step in and “create order”, and so it will not be resolved, even if
> schools become the battleground. The more killing, the more chaos, the
> greater need for the messiah, and the greater diversion from the real
> problem.
>
> The issue of abortion, also, is a creator of division and chaos. Fifty
> years of settled law has been overturned. Why? Is it because it is a real
> issue, or an issue fabricated to make people turn against one another?
> Abortion is used to stir up the maga people, giving them a focus other than
> their own despair.
>
> The list goes on and on. Mask mandates. Vaccination. Banning books. Any
> issue that can create confrontation is thrown into the public arena. The
> idea is not to change a policy or to settle a question, but simply to
> create division and chaos. Why division and chaos? Because they take the
> focus away from the real cause of poverty and the loss of the middle class,
> and open the door for authoritarian intervention. Diversion and
> dictatorship. We know what the problem is.
>
> As long as news commentators and politicians limit the discussion to
> details of the issue- any issue- there will be no change. Should an 18 year
> old be allowed to purchase a machine gun? Let’s talk about it. And how many
> rounds in a magazine? Do we need more police in schools? teachers with
> guns? Should family members be prosecuted for encouraging abortion? Which
> books should local school boards ban? On and on. Raising and discussing
> these types of issues is a smokescreen that only serves to divide so that
> wealth can conquer. The real issue is economic justice, and that is an
> issue that the haves don’t want to talk about, and the compliant
> politicians prostrate themselves and betray their constituents for 30
> pieces of silver.
>
> Mammon and betrayal are not new, as the 30 pieces remind us. The seeming
> omnipotence of the rich and powerful has been the scourge of the earth
> since the beginning of history. If the US has inherited anything from the
> Judeo-Christian tradition, it should be that God is against the
> exploitation of the weak and helpless, the “widows and orphans” to use the
> biblical phrase. Read the prophets of the Hebrew Scriptures who again and
> again warn the wealthy that they must change their ways. Jesus walked in
> the footsteps of Amos and Ezekiel and the myriad other prophets who spoke
> the Word of the Lord. Who can forget or neglect the powerful imagery of the
> Gospel of Matthew? To those who have kept the wealth for themselves, Jesus
> throws these words: “ ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal
> fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave
> me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a
> stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not
> clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’”
> Although this was written by a disciple, Jesus most likely not believing in
> eternal damnation, the point is clear. We know what the problem is, and we
> know where God stands on the issue.
>
> Studies have shown that peak happiness, if we can use that term, happens
> when one has enough but not too much. In 2022 America, that annual income
> number is a bit over $75,000. More is less. Greed is not conducive to
> happiness. Love is. Love is who we are and can and must be. Sharing with
> and caring for one another is the path to peace and happiness. We know what
> the problem is. And we know how to fix it.
> ~ Carl Krieg, Ph.D.
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> *About the Author*
> *Dr. Carl Krieg* received his BA from Dartmouth College, MDiv from Union
> Theological Seminary in NYC, and Ph.D. from the University of Chicago
> Divinity School. He is the author of *What to Believe? the Questions of
> Christian Faith,*
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> Question & Answer
> *Q: By A Reader*
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> *Writings by Progressive Christians have left me very sad and with a
> profound sense of loss. I always thought there would be heaven
> awaiting--where I would continue to exist---and see those that I have
> loved. Now, I know that is not true. I will "meld", for want of a better
> word, into the Cosmos. There is no reward for sacrifice or painful times,
> no reward for giving or suffering. There is not even the "God" I used to
> believe in, and talk to. There is no one there. Why bother to "love
> wastefully" ?? Why sacrifice?? Why do anything or be anything beyond being
> a relatively decent, law-abiding person?*
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> *A: By Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D.*
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> <https://progressivechristianity.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b51b9cf441b059bb232418480&id=a2aa8c9fce&e=db34daa597>Dear
> Reader,
> I would begin by inviting you to remain with your profound sense of loss
> and your feeling of sadness. I’m aware that it might not feel like this
> now, but they are gifts. They are gifts because they are expressions of
> your soul here and now. I invite you to breathe into the loss and the
> feeling of sadness in your body. Come to know them – Are they contractions
> in your solar plexus? A hard pit in your belly? A lack of sensation in your
> pelvis? Hot? Cold? Too often we “intellectualize” our bodily experiences
> and miss the wisdom being communicated. So, I invite you to begin with
> honoring where you are. In the darkness of your loss and sadness is your
> path – the unfolding thread of your personal journey.
>
> What I say next is not meant to make you feel better or even differently.
> I offer these words as possible aids to your own curiosity in your
> unfolding journey.
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> Each of us is an embodiment of Holy Mystery – Boundless Love. Love, as you
> are discovering is not an object, or a person, but the very fabric of
> Reality itself. When we are young the primary way we understand this love
> is as a God that is a person, like us, only greater. But to realize that
> God is Love is to slowly awaken to the truth that the fluid fabric of
> Reality itself is Love. And that there could never be anything more
> intimate than that. This is a kind of intimacy we can only discover for
> ourself within the loss of something familiar to hold onto.
>
> We love, we care, we forgive, we sacrifice, because it’s the true nature
> of our soul – our being. We love, care, forgive, sacrifice not in hope of a
> reward, or out of fear, or because of a command; we love because love is
> our deepest longing, and we experience profound joy in being true to what
> we are. Even when that truth involves loss and sadness, such as you are
> experiencing now. When we don’t love, we feel hollow, cold, and lost.
>
> Because Love is the fabric of Reality, no creature, no person, no friend,
> is ever lost, forsaken, or forgotten. Love never ends. None of us knows, or
> can know, how the spiritual journey continues to unfold after our body
> dies. But my sense is that the journey does indeed continue because Love
> has no end.
>
> I don’t see any reason for you to stop talking with Holy Mystery. Let your
> heart and body express itself – its loss, its sadness, its confusion, its
> longing. Express yourself in words, tears, song, silence, and ritual. The
> response of Holy Mystery will not be in words but in your continuing
> journey of awakening as the embodiment of Love. The possibility is that
> your sense of intimacy with your soul, with the ones you love, and with
> Holy Mystery, will deepen in ways you never imagined possible.
> ~ Kevin G. Thew Forrester, Ph.D.
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> Diamond Approach for over a decade, as well as a certified teacher of the
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> Bishop John Shelby Spong Revisited
> The Birth of Jesus, Part I: Introduction
> Essay by Bishop John Shelby Spong
> November 8, 2012
> Most of the portraits of the mother of Jesus that hang in the great
> museums of the world are dependent first on the biblical stories of Jesus’
> birth and second on the presumed appearances of his mother at the foot of
> the cross.  Take those two traditions away from the New Testament and the
> mother of Jesus almost totally disappears.  Indeed, what remains is mostly
> negative.  She is portrayed in Mark (chapters 3 and 6) as thinking that
> Jesus was “beside himself,” that is “out of his mind” and she, along with
> his brothers, moves to “put him away.”  He had, this story implies, become
> an embarrassment to the family.  In the Fourth Gospel, in the narrative of
> the water being changed into wine, the mother of Jesus is portrayed as
> inappropriately pushing Jesus to act and she receives from him the rebuke,
> “Woman, what have you to do with me, my hour has not yet come?”  She is
> also not present at the cross in the writings of Paul or in any of the
> earlier gospels of Mark, Matthew or Luke. Only with the appearance of the
> Fourth Gospel at the end of the first century did anyone think to portray
> her at the foot of the cross.
>
> These biblical facts force us to recognize that most of the ideas we have
> about the mother of Jesus are late developing myths that make assumptions
> the Bible does not make.  The birth stories are found first in Matthew, the
> dating of which is generally between 82 and 85, and second in Luke, which
> is generally thought to have been written about a decade after Matthew.
> This means that the New Testament’s accounts of Jesus’ birth are both
> products of a time 52-65 years after the life of Jesus came to its earthly
> end and some 82-95 years after the time of his birth.  This is not eye
> witness reporting. Clearly the tradition that was built around the mother
> of Jesus is both late developing and continues to grow with the passing of
> years.
>
> Once the time of the writing of the New Testament has passed, however, the
> mythology that developed around the mother of Jesus apparently knew no
> bounds.  The virgin mother of the birth narratives became in successive
> generations, first, the permanent virgin, thus redefining Jesus’ siblings,
> referred to by name in both Galatians and in Mark, and referred to in John
> simply as “his brothers,” as half brothers or cousins. Next she was
> declared to have been a “post-partum” virgin, which suggested that even the
> birth of Jesus did not disturb her virginal hymen.  In the service of that
> idea the “Fathers” of the church even searched the scriptures for biblical
> texts that would support this growing conviction.  They settled on two.
> First, they looked at the writings of a sixth century BCE prophet named
> Ezekiel, who in the first verse of the 44th chapter wrote these words:
> “This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened and no one shall enter
> by it, for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it
> shall remain shut.”  Without either apology or embarrassment, they leaped
> on these words to claim that the “post partum virginity” of the “Blessed
> Virgin Mary” had actually been predicted by the prophets! The second text
> was found in the resurrection story according to the Fourth Gospel.  In
> that narrative the disciples were in hiding in an upper room with the doors
> and the windows closed and locked and Jesus came and stood in their midst.
> If the risen Christ could pass through walls guarded by locked doors, they
> argued, it was no great stretch to imagine the infant Christ passing
> through the birth canal of his mother without breaking the hymen.
> Mythology always does strange things to facts and to reality.
>
> By the 19th century, devotion to the mother of Jesus became so strong that
> the Roman Catholic Church, in which this devotion was most encouraged,
> declared that she, unlike all other human beings, had been “immaculately
> conceived.”  That is, her mother had been miraculously cleansed of the sin
> of Adam, which was believed to have infected all human beings and to have
> been passed on from generation to generation.  For Jesus to have been born
> without sin, his mother would have to have been especially prepared for
> this birth.   This necessity also reflected the fact that in the early
> years of the 18th century, the discovery had been made that women have an
> egg cell and therefore that the woman literally contributes half of the
> genetic makeup of every person who has ever been born.  Prior to this the
> assumption was that the woman simply provided the womb that nurtured the
> male seed to maturity.  Like “Mother Earth” into which the farmer planted
> the seed, the woman’s role had been seen as simply to bring to birth the
> life that came from the male.  When the egg cell was discovered, the
> realization dawned on the leadership of the church that the mother of Jesus
> was, like all women and indeed like all people, a child of Adam and so the
> sinlessness of Jesus was compromised through his mother’s line. That had
> not been a problem in the old view of reproduction. The Immaculate
> Conception addressed that theological problem demonstrating once and for
> all that even “infallible” doctrines are forced to adjust to new
> discoveries.
> The final chapter in the mythological development of the mother of Jesus
> came in the 20th century when Mary was declared to have been bodily assumed
> into heaven.  Since she was born without sin, she was not required to go
> through the passage of death, since death, according to the story of the
> Garden of Eden, was punishment for sin.
>
> Carl Jung rejoiced in the Vatican’s declaration of the bodily assumption
> of the mother of Jesus into heaven because in his world of symbols this
> meant that the feminine had finally been lifted into God and the
> patriarchal tyranny of a God conceived of in only masculine terms and
> always addressed as “Father” had finally been tempered.
>
> In this new series of columns over the next few months, I want, first, to
> get underneath the mythology of the ages and second, the development found
> in the New Testament itself, so that we can look at Jesus, the mother of
> Jesus and the entire Christian story with a set of eyes honed by
> scholarship and tempered by the facts of history as we can demonstrate
> them.  I trust it will be an illuminating and worthwhile story for my
> readers.
>
> If the familiar biblical images of the mother of Jesus are late
> developing, what do we have that is original and perhaps trustworthy?  That
> is the question we will address as this series unfolds.  I begin with some
> statements of fact that I will pursue in detail going into each of them
> deeply before any conclusions are reached, probably some time in February.
> For now, I simply file them as bullet points for your consideration. As the
> Book of Common Prayer in my church states these bullet points are designed
> to be “read, marked, learned and inwardly digested.” This series will
> provide the time to do just that.
>
> We can now date the life of Jesus with some degree of accuracy. Recent
> discoveries have made it possible to fix the life of Jesus between the
> years of 4 BCE and 30 CE.  We get to these dates first by the discovery in
> ancient Roman records that King Herod died in 4 BCE and since the clear New
> Testament tradition is that Jesus was born when Herod was the king so we
> fix the date of Jesus birth at 4 BCE.  Second, we learn, once more from
> secular records, that Pilate was the procurator of Judea for the Roman
> Empire between the years 26-36 CE.  If, as each of the gospels asserts, the
> crucifixion occurred under the authority of Pilate, then the crucifixion
> has to happen some time between those dates.  Roman records also provide us
> with some other facts in the life of Pilate that have to do with the
> reasons for his removal from office.  Since they appear to have happened
> well after the crucifixion we can squeeze those dates a bit closer to
> perhaps 28-32 as the time of the crucifixion.  We then split the difference
> and settle on 30, with the knowledge that we might be off two years in
> either direction.  So for our working purposes, we set the life of Jesus
> between 4 BC and 30 CE.
>
> We have nothing preserved in writing anywhere of anything concerning the
> life of Jesus before the year 51 CE. That is a silent and dark historical
> tunnel, which can be illumined only by speculation.  It is filled in only
> by what we call “the oral tradition” that we have almost no way of
> recreating, entering or capturing.
>
> Paul the first writer, whose work was destined to be included in the New
> Testament, did all of his writing between the years 51 and 64.  Not all of
> the epistles attributed to Paul are authentically from his hand.  The ones
> about whom a consensus of the certainty of Pauline authorship exists are I
> Thessalonians, Galatians, I and II Corinthians, Romans, Philemon and
> Philippians.  This means that II Thessalonians, Colossians, Ephesians, I
> and II Timothy, Titus and Hebrews are not considered to be from the hand of
> Paul.
> Nowhere in any part of the authentic Pauline corpus is there a reference
> of any kind to the birth of Jesus, nor is there any mention of the mother
> or father of Jesus. There are in Paul, however, several references, mostly
> in Galatians, to James, the brother of the Lord.
>
> Our study of the birth of Jesus will therefore start with Paul, the
> earliest writer in the New Testament. That means that we will start our
> investigation in the sixth and seventh decades of the Christian era.
>
> I hope that whets your appetite.  We will continue the drama in subsequent
> columns.
> ~  John Shelby Spong
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