[Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Birthday Witness. Now the New York Times chimes in . ..

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Tue Jan 14 12:53:25 PST 2020


Isobel, 

I want you to know that you cannot possibly send us too many updates. 
The fires lead almost every newscast here and there is no end to our
concern.  I am particularly devastated by the loss of wildlife.  I found
myself crying after a BBC interview with a farmer/rancher who had just
been out shooting his cows who had been so badly burned he felt it
necessary to spare them further pain. As I think of whole species
becoming extinct that we may have never known existed, I was driven to
go back to the Immense Journey by Loren Eiseley to read 'the skull.' 

My hopes are with yours.  My prayers are almost all confession for what
I have done and what I do not know to do. Please know that your posts
come as lifelines for survival of our concerns. Stay safe and be
blessed, Margaret

On 2020-01-08 21:08, isobeljimbish--- via OE wrote:

> Thank you Del and all of you who have emailed and Fb us.  
> The country is on fire indeed.  
> We hope that leadership will prevail and that those former Fire Commissioners who asked to meet the Prime Minister in  March last year, to discuss preparations for what conflagration they predicted was coming in the summer- that now he and his colleagues will listen, at last.  
> Another positive outcome I believe,  is that the First Peoples will have a platform to share their own skills and fire management strategies, thousands of years old. Already their wisdom is being sought.  
> I live with hope in my heart that these two drives forward will happen.  
> We do much appreciate your concern.  
> Thank you all. 
> Grace and  peace  and love be yours, 
> Isobel Bishop  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 9 Jan 2020, at 10:43 am, Del Morrill via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

> With these disastrous fires in Australia  our thoughts are often with our friends there, and more than a bit worried. 
> 
> Del (and Justin too) 
> 
> From: OE <oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net> On Behalf Of isobeljimbish--- via OE
> Sent: Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:17 PM
> To: Judi White <sophiacircle at gmail.com>
> Cc: isobeljimbish at optusnet.com.au; Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Birthday Witness. Now the New York Times chimes in . .. 
> 
> Thank you Judi for this reflection. 
> 
> Yesterday Elaine Telford celebrated her 80th Birthday in style ! 
> 
> Family and friends gathered with the vast network of people Elaine has touched with her extraordinary life.! I  
> 
> A happy moment,  in the midst of our raging bush fires.  
> 
> With love, 
> 
> Isobel Bishop 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 5 Jan 2020, at 2:54 am, Judi White <sophiacircle at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> http://m.dailygood.org/story/2236/the-joy-of-being-a-woman-in-her-seventies-mary-pipher/. Yessterday was the funeral for a friend. She and I and five others in our local social group reached 75 this year. She found out 3 months ago that her days were incurably numbered. She prepared for yesterday in extensive detail and spent all her remaining time loving being near her family. In the one conversation I had with her she shared that she was at peace with deeply acknowledging that the upcoming final moment is a natural conclusion, from which she was not exempt. She also said that each day of decline was presenting a new challenge for her to embrace. She said she was grateful for these challenges which gave her an opportunity to ask her resilience to support her. I imagine that she, a long time 5th grade teacher, did not pass up one opportunity to role model and share her perspective with her family as they remained close to her. The happiness that she brought to their lives and ours
reigned throughout yesterday's celebration of Beverly Phillip's life now completed.  
> 
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 4:19 AM isobeljimbish--- via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: 
> 
> Dear Randy,
> 
> Thank you for this reflection. I appreciate it very much  as it occasioned me to remember how my Dad and I spent a month in preparation for his death.  
> 
> With love  
> 
> Isobel Bishop 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> On 4 Jan 2020, at 6:39 am, Randy Williams via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: 
> 
> My mother died in March of 2001 at age 90. I spent every waking hour of her last five days with her. She was conscious and cognizant until about the last eight hours before she died. We had some incredible conversations on: What is death? What is it like to die? What will it be like after we die? I attribute the quality of the dialogue to, one, neither of us acted as if we actually knew the answers to the questions but we were both willing to struggle for some clarity. And two, neither of us tried to kid the other about the fact that she was dying. This freed us both up to share honestly and from the depths. I feel certain we both had our lives changed and our love for each other deepened during those five unforgettable last days for her. I would love to talk with a loved one about those same questions when my time nears.  
> 
> Randy 
> 
> On Jan 3, 2020, at 12:39 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote: 
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/03/nyregion/ruth-willig-oldest-death.html?te=1&nl=morning-briefing&emc=edit_NN_p_20200103&section=longRead?campaign_id=9&instance_id=14935&segment_id=20013&user_id=505cb1dd7896a746e64ebf529d31e095&regi_id=77723647ion=longRead
> 
> With Respect,
> 
> Jim Wiegel 
> 
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