[Oe List ...] Ma's low and Us

Judi White sophiacircle at gmail.com
Sat Jan 19 13:46:14 PST 2019


You are so right.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019, 4:23 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com wrote:

> I like Ma's low better!
> Have always felt that
> Bultmann's paragraphs               mirror                Ma's low--
> every day care for the morrow                        physical needs/safety
> desire for love                                                  belonging
> thirst for knowledge / impulse to action and work      self esteem, self
> actualization
> idea of duty -- you can for you ought                  self transcendence
>
> Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
>
> “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but
> the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis
>
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> On Saturday, January 19, 2019, 7:03:03 AM MST, Judi White <
> sophiacircle at gmail.com> wrote:
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>
> O for heaven's sake. That's Maslow not Ma's low. Just posted, as a retired
> counselor/therapist, a tiny discovery that another psychologist beside
> Assagioli had acknowledged the value of spirituality in a human's health
> and well being. I'm sure Rudolph' s super mundane reality would appreciate
> the collegiality of another perspective in a different field. Both seemed
> to be able to transcend ego.
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:10 PM James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> They would probably agonize some over the pronouns, etc.
>
> Jim Wiegel
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> When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no
> doubt.  "But that is not what great ships are built for."   Clarissa
> Pinkola Estes
>
> On Jan 18, 2019, at 09:21, Judi White <sophiacircle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sure that if they were sitting together today, it would be a lively
> synthesis and perhaps a great "aha" would emerge!
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 9:51 AM James Wiegel <jfwiegel at yahoo.com wrote:
>
> *HMM, I WONDER IF Abraham and Rudolph ever talked . . .*
>
> *It is God who makes man finite, and who makes a comedy of man's care, who
> allows his longing to miscarry, who casts him into solitude, who sets a
> terminus to his knowing and doing, who calls him to duty, and who gives the
> guilty over to torment. And yet at the same time it is God who forces man
> into life and drives him into care; who puts longing and the desire to love
> in his heart; who gives him thoughts and strength for his work, and who
> places him in the eternal struggle be­tween self-assertion and duty. God is
> the enigmatic power beyond time, yet master of the temporal: beyond being,
> yet working in it.*
>
>
> Jim Wiegel <http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123>
>
> “That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but
> the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis
>
> 401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353
>
> 623-363-3277
>
> jfwiegel at yahoo.com <marilyn.oyler at gmail.com>
>
> www.partnersinparticipation.com
>
>
> On Friday, January 18, 2019, 7:39:39 AM MST, Judi White via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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>
>
> https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2016/09/28/maslow-hierarchy-of-needs-secret-layer/
>
> Seems like only recently have I and others have cime to value Maslow's
> Hierarchy of Needs. This model which includes transcendence, appears to
> describe how we, the social pioneers, we're drawn out to that point of the
> no longer and the not yet. And so did he, but never published it.
> Transcendence as a basic need sure correlates with my life's journey. Happy
> New Year of the joyous Pig  - coming up soon and already begun in some
> places.
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