[Oe List ...] Town Meetings Belgium

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          NEVER GONNA HAVE THAT CHANCEAGAIN

            Tune: Hello, Dolly

 

            We were a searching people

            And a zestful people

            And we came from many lands acrossthe sea.

 

            We were merchants and farmers.

            We were slaves and charmers

            And we dared to face the struggleindividually         

 

            But we got up one morning,   

            Saw a new world dawning     

            After night and “I” were left thereall alone.  

 

            He saw his brother, and          

            She saw her sister, and            

            We saw the oneness of us all  

 

            And now we move forward   

            To that unknown future          

            Which depends on what we all decideto do 

 

            We have our hopes ready        

            And our task waiting  

            And it's our responsibility to bringit through.            

 

            And this calls forth courage    

            To accept challenge     

            And produce a revolutionary way      

 

Stand up and be counted,       

The world's on your shoulder,            

Never gonna have that chance again. 

            Never gonna have that chance again. 

Never gonna have that chance again, Ok


Jim Wiegel  

“That which consumes me is not man, nor the earth, nor the heavens, but the flame which consumes man, earth, and sky."  Nikos Kazantzakis

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    On Thursday, May 10, 2018, 11:03:02 AM MST, Richard <dick_alton at hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Did you sing your town meeting song in French and Flemish.. Sally still sings her Utah town meeting songs for her supper- did it for the Wiegels when we had dinner together a couple of weeks ago... still brings tears to my eyesDick
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Loneliness does not come from having no people around you. But from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you.  Carl Jung
On May 9, 2018, at 23:04, Paul Schrijnen via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


In April this group: Elly, Clare, Paul, Ken and Luc met in Kerniel in Belgium. Some 40 years earlier we did our first town meeting in Belgium in that village.  

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On 10 May 2018, at 04:52, James Wiegel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
I was miraculously privileged, while working with ICA West, to be involved in the series of International Technology of Participation Training of Trainers programs in Phoenix.  Privileged for spending 6 weeks with emerging leaders from ICA's around the world.  That is where I met Lan and so many others of a newer generation.
https://youtu.be/b-6pRIJPsgQ

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Loneliness does not come from having no people around you. But from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you.  Carl Jung
On May 9, 2018, at 18:45, Isobel Bishop via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


Hello Jim,Could you be a Detective in another life 🎈😊 ? In peace and love to y'allIsobel Bishop 
Thanks for the good work, James.
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On 10 May 2018, at 10:49 am, James Wiegel via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


People are talking about you!  Sally Stovall, a colleague of many years is on her way to Paris with her sister.  Dick Alton wondered about ICA/ToP colleagues in France, and Larry Philbrook mentioned you!
So this is an excuse for me to say hello, I hope you are doing well!  I see your posts on Facebook.

Jim Wiegel401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353Tel. 011-623-936-8671 or 011-623-363-3277jfwiegel at yahoo.comwww.partnersinparticipation.com
Loneliness does not come from having no people around you. But from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you.  Carl Jung
On May 9, 2018, at 17:07, icalarry--- via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


Dick and Terry FYI

Lan Levy and colleagues are working to revive ICA in France and have connected with old colleagues there in the process.

Another colleague in Vienna connected with Hannerl

With respect,
Larry 

Lawrence Philbrook CTF CPF
ICA Taiwan
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Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach  MANFRED GOLDA. A-1080 Wien, Skodagasse 9/2/12. Tel. 0222/42 34 SI. Wi en ,Weihnachten 1984. Esteigt. Liebe Verwandte, Freunde und Bekannte! Wenn Dich/Sie dieser ... von Berlin nach Wien mitgetragen haben. Es war dann, seit wir ... Der Familie geht es sonst gut , Hannerl ist in der ICA-Arbeit hier stark engagiert ,. I was amazed and when I told Sally about this find she suggested that since she is on her way with her sister to Paris we should google ICA Paris.. never know the kinds of ICA people still hanging around. Reminds me of the Coco movie..need to have pictures and thoughts of people to keep them around and in the other world.   Dick
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On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Richard via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach  MANFRED GOLDA. A-1080 Wien, Skodagasse 9/2/12. Tel. 0222/42 34 SI. Wi en ,Weihnachten 1984. Esteigt. Liebe Verwandte, Freunde und Bekannte! Wenn Dich/Sie dieser ... von Berlin nach Wien mitgetragen haben. Es war dann, seit wir ... Der Familie geht es sonst gut , Hannerl ist in der ICA-Arbeit hier stark engagiert ,. I was amazed and when I told Sally about this find she suggested that since she is on her way with her sister to Paris we should google ICA Paris.. never know the kinds of ICA people still hanging around. Reminds me of the Coco movie..need to have pictures and thoughts of people to keep them around and in the other world.   Dick
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So true,Dick yes Iona Island west of the Island of Mull, western Scotland is one such 'thin place,' in my view.Thankyou In peace,Isobel Bishop 
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On 9 May 2018, at 11:11 am, Mary Kurian D'Souza via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:


Thank you Richard Alton.
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Richard via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach  MANFRED GOLDA. A-1080 Wien, Skodagasse 9/2/12. Tel. 0222/42 34 SI. Wi en ,Weihnachten 1984. Esteigt. Liebe Verwandte, Freunde und Bekannte! Wenn Dich/Sie dieser ... von Berlin nach Wien mitgetragen haben. Es war dann, seit wir ... Der Familie geht es sonst gut , Hannerl ist in der ICA-Arbeit hier stark engagiert ,. I was amazed and when I told Sally about this find she suggested that since she is on her way with her sister to Paris we should google ICA Paris.. never know the kinds of ICA people still hanging around. Reminds me of the Coco movie..need to have pictures and thoughts of people to keep them around and in the other world.   Dick
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It is no mystery that when we were in the Philadelphia House with Dick et al, our Daily Office was always inclusive of witnesses that caught one’s attention! ‘PRAISE the Lord, Christ is risen’ and thanks to Dick continues to ‘rise’ each day!Love, Grace & Peace,Ellen Howie
On May 8, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Mary Kurian D'Souza via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Thank you Richard Alton.
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:46 AM, Richard via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach  MANFRED GOLDA. A-1080 Wien, Skodagasse 9/2/12. Tel. 0222/42 34 SI. Wi en ,Weihnachten 1984. Esteigt. Liebe Verwandte, Freunde und Bekannte! Wenn Dich/Sie dieser ... von Berlin nach Wien mitgetragen haben. Es war dann, seit wir ... Der Familie geht es sonst gut , Hannerl ist in der ICA-Arbeit hier stark engagiert ,. I was amazed and when I told Sally about this find she suggested that since she is on her way with her sister to Paris we should google ICA Paris.. never know the kinds of ICA people still hanging around. Reminds me of the Coco movie..need to have pictures and thoughts of people to keep them around and in the other world.   Dick
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Beautiful fragments turn into Mystery of life on bustrips between Springfield and Chicago.
I did a bit more research on Manfred and Hannerl.
Here is a retirement notice about Manfred from 2007:

As of August 31, 2007, Pastor Mag. Manfred Golda is retired.

Manfred Günter Erwin Golda was born on October 25, 1941 in Klagenfurt, where he was baptized by pastor Erich Pechel and confirmed in the preaching office Velden am Wörther See by pastor Friedrich Krotz.

Manfred Golda went to school in Klagenfurt and graduated in 1962 from the Federal Trade School for Mechanical Engineering. He then spent a year in England attending a Bible School of the Torchbearers Missionary Community. From 1963 to 1970 he studied theology in Vienna and during this time worked in the student church. After passing his exams in January 1970, he was a teaching vicar in Vienna's Inner City under the guidance of Prof. Wilhelm, and was ordained by the latter on 11 July 1972, assisted by Reverend Adolf Rücker (Vienna) and Pastor Friedrich Krotz (Pörtschach).

As of December 1, 1972, Manfred Golda was also pastor of this congregation, and in addition to his usual official duties supervised the student church, held a lecture at the Protestant Theological Faculty of Old Testament Exe- cution, and worked together with the Reformed and Catholic Parish of St. Stephen founded the ecumenical bible study.

>From 1978 to 1980, Manfred Golda worked at the Institute for Cultural Affairs (ICA) in Frankfurt am Main and in Berlin West. The ICA is a global institute that develops and communicates participatory methods for community work. The work area included various communities in West Germany and West Berlin. From 1980 to 1984, Manfred Golda was a parish commissary at the Berlin Mission with the main focus on coordinating ecclesial partnership work with Africa and the Middle East, organizing seminaries, mission festivals, etc.

In 1984, Manfred Golda returned to Vienna and until 1996 was a pastor for participants with a focus on the care and counselling of foreign students and ecumenical cooperation in higher education.

On 1 September 1996, Manfred Golda was appointed parish priest of the pastorate of the parish of A. B. Wien-Währing, not affiliated with the pastoral ministry. Together with Pastor Manfred Schreier, he has endeavored to ensure that this large parish with kindergarten, school and after-school careers is well organized, which in recent years has also meant an enormous challenge for the general refurbishment of the church and other buildings.

Pastor Golda was first married to sports teacher Hannerl Regina. Laubenberger married, from this marriage come the children Martin Alfred, Astrid Christiane and Florian Rainer.

Since 2001 he has been married with Dr. theol. Maria Irene Riebl, an adult educator and psychotherapist.

The heart of Pastor Golda probably beats in the wide world, among the young churches of Africa. This is visible in his honorary offices as chairman of the Mission Council, the Evang. World Mission Working Group (EAWM), as a longtime member of the board of the Evang. Associations for student hostels and chairman of the Protestant Higher Education Community, the executive board of Oikocredit Austria (Ecumenical Development Cooperative), the EAEZ (Evang Working Group for Development Cooperation) and chair of the synodal committee for world mission and development cooperation (WEZ).

Pastor Golda has been particularly dedicated to the "missionary pastor" in our church and was assistant at the inauguration of Ghanaian Rev. Rev. Timothy Annoh on Pentecost Sunday this year.
The Evangelical Oberkirchenrat thanks Pastor Mag. Manfred Golda for his dedicated service in our church, for the efforts of the young students and especially for the vision that Manfred Golda has brought to our church again and again and wishes him and his family God's blessing and escort for the future    





On 9 May 2018, at 00:16, Richard via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach  MANFRED GOLDA. A-1080 Wien, Skodagasse 9/2/12. Tel. 0222/42 34 SI. Wi en ,Weihnachten 1984. Esteigt. Liebe Verwandte, Freunde und Bekannte! Wenn Dich/Sie dieser ... von Berlin nach Wien mitgetragen haben. Es war dann, seit wir ... Der Familie geht es sonst gut , Hannerl ist in der ICA-Arbeit hier stark engagiert ,. I was amazed and when I told Sally about this find she suggested that since she is on her way with her sister to Paris we should google ICA Paris.. never know the kinds of ICA people still hanging around. Reminds me of the Coco movie..need to have pictures and thoughts of people to keep them around and in the other world.   Dick
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Beautiful fragments turn into Mystery of life on bustrips between Springfield and Chicago.
I did a bit more research on Manfred and Hannerl.
Here is a retirement notice about Manfred from 2007:

As of August 31, 2007, Pastor Mag. Manfred Golda is retired.

Manfred Günter Erwin Golda was born on October 25, 1941 in Klagenfurt, where he was baptized by pastor Erich Pechel and confirmed in the preaching office Velden am Wörther See by pastor Friedrich Krotz.

Manfred Golda went to school in Klagenfurt and graduated in 1962 from the Federal Trade School for Mechanical Engineering. He then spent a year in England attending a Bible School of the Torchbearers Missionary Community. From 1963 to 1970 he studied theology in Vienna and during this time worked in the student church. After passing his exams in January 1970, he was a teaching vicar in Vienna's Inner City under the guidance of Prof. Wilhelm, and was ordained by the latter on 11 July 1972, assisted by Reverend Adolf Rücker (Vienna) and Pastor Friedrich Krotz (Pörtschach).

As of December 1, 1972, Manfred Golda was also pastor of this congregation, and in addition to his usual official duties supervised the student church, held a lecture at the Protestant Theological Faculty of Old Testament Exe- cution, and worked together with the Reformed and Catholic Parish of St. Stephen founded the ecumenical bible study.

>From 1978 to 1980, Manfred Golda worked at the Institute for Cultural Affairs (ICA) in Frankfurt am Main and in Berlin West. The ICA is a global institute that develops and communicates participatory methods for community work. The work area included various communities in West Germany and West Berlin. From 1980 to 1984, Manfred Golda was a parish commissary at the Berlin Mission with the main focus on coordinating ecclesial partnership work with Africa and the Middle East, organizing seminaries, mission festivals, etc.

In 1984, Manfred Golda returned to Vienna and until 1996 was a pastor for participants with a focus on the care and counselling of foreign students and ecumenical cooperation in higher education.

On 1 September 1996, Manfred Golda was appointed parish priest of the pastorate of the parish of A. B. Wien-Währing, not affiliated with the pastoral ministry. Together with Pastor Manfred Schreier, he has endeavored to ensure that this large parish with kindergarten, school and after-school careers is well organized, which in recent years has also meant an enormous challenge for the general refurbishment of the church and other buildings.

Pastor Golda was first married to sports teacher Hannerl Regina. Laubenberger married, from this marriage come the children Martin Alfred, Astrid Christiane and Florian Rainer.

Since 2001 he has been married with Dr. theol. Maria Irene Riebl, an adult educator and psychotherapist.

The heart of Pastor Golda probably beats in the wide world, among the young churches of Africa. This is visible in his honorary offices as chairman of the Mission Council, the Evang. World Mission Working Group (EAWM), as a longtime member of the board of the Evang. Associations for student hostels and chairman of the Protestant Higher Education Community, the executive board of Oikocredit Austria (Ecumenical Development Cooperative), the EAEZ (Evang Working Group for Development Cooperation) and chair of the synodal committee for world mission and development cooperation (WEZ).

Pastor Golda has been particularly dedicated to the "missionary pastor" in our church and was assistant at the inauguration of Ghanaian Rev. Rev. Timothy Annoh on Pentecost Sunday this year.
The Evangelical Oberkirchenrat thanks Pastor Mag. Manfred Golda for his dedicated service in our church, for the efforts of the young students and especially for the vision that Manfred Golda has brought to our church again and again and wishes him and his family God's blessing and escort for the future    





On 9 May 2018, at 00:16, Richard via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
Witness to the Mystery of Life I have a long history of ‘baring my soul’ witnesses to the amazing and unusual things that happen in my life. There was the foul ball at the Cubs game, there was ‘expecting more from strangers’, the Monsignor Egan event, etc.. there is a lot of mystery out there if you have the eyes to see it .. a “thin places” where the other world that is in this world becomes apparent Ok, so I get an email from Terry Bergdall forwarding an email from Geri Tolman asking if Terry knew how to get in touch with Hannerl and Manfred Golda. The Tolmans had been in Frankfurt together with Goldas in 78-79 and wanted them to know of Warren’s passing. When I got Terry’s note I was on a bus returning from Springfield, Illinois at an Environmental Lobby day. It is a three-hour bus trip to Chicago, so I had time on my hands. I had known Hannerl and Manfred when I was part of the Brussels House and even traveled to Vienna to visit them as part of an ICA gathering. So I knew they had been or still lived in Vienna. So I googled Hannerl Golda.. nothing and then added Vienna. A lot of German text and other odds and ends, kept scrolling down and up popped the following German paragraph. I would of missed it except for the very end of the paragraph it has ICA. I am not sure what it says although when I googled Manfred it said in English he was a consultant/coach <="" blockquote="">



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