[Oe List ...] Fw: This is a message from Doris Hahn

Wed May 11 14:55:04 PDT 2016

Aren't these strings fun?!
As John Epps said several days, Joe did his Ph.D. work at Yale under H. R.
Niebuhr. Then, he taught at Colgate for a fairly short time before going to
Perkins. I believe Marge's story about Joe's thesis is correct. I also
believe that he dropped the thesis, because he decided that academia was
not the route for a religious revolution. The rest of the story we know
(though we certainly might not agree on various pieces of it).
Doris Hahn

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:12 PM, W. J. via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
wrote:

> Marge P. has the typescript of Joe's thesis (I've seen it).
> More accurately, Joe did finish and submit it, but it was declined and
> returned for further revision, which Joe refused to do, according to Marge.
> Marshall
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 12:19 PM, Beret Griffith <
> beretgriffith at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From Jean Long - Brother Joe research...
>
> On page 116 in Brother Joe, Jim Mathews writes, *"On October passed his
> qualifying exams and was accepted as a PH.D. candidate. ( at Colgate?). A
> bit later he qualified in French and German as well.  He chose as as the
> topic for his  dissertation  'a Study of Love and Faith in the Thought of
> John Wesley' ."*
>
> *"The fact is, Joe never completed this thesis.  It became a major burden
> to him as he was caught up in the demands of academia at Colgate and
> Southern Methodist."*
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> On page 130 Jim says,* "in 1960, Lincoln Memorial University awarded him
> an honorary Doctor of Divinity."*
>
> Thank you Jean!
>
> Beret
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 3:12 PM, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You could say it takes the whole Order (or all the Order's wisdom) to
> write the Order's history.
> Many thanks to all who contributed to Beret's amazing work!
> Let's 'finish our work' as an Order before it's too late for us.
> Marshall
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:45 PM, Beret Griffith <beretgriffith at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> It is very good you are catching errors. I went back and checked original
> notes from Doris and her notes do NOT say Joe graduated from Perkins. I
> don't know how that sentence was added, yet I must have added it from some
> statement in notes that I cannot find. I also cannot find my copy of *Brother
> Joe*. Jean Long has a copy and will take a look and see how Joe's
> academic life is addressed in the book.
>
> It is easy to edit the Chronological History. David Dunn will put in the
> edits. P. 10 and p 19 statements re: Joe graduating from Perkins will be
> taken out. John and Marshall, if you feel the information you have is
> needed in the ChronHist, please write a sentence or two and indicate where
> it is to go in the text.
>
> And...anyone, as you read the Chronological History please send additions
> and corrections to me. I will gather information for the next edit.
>
> Also, the Addendum is for adding information after 1988.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y0IgEUDJLGzZJp_DVoZ0ZwE4hiLfZ7inTTTmD9nLEdo/edit
>
> Another document (currently a holding document for data) *Summer
> Programs, Order Councils & Movement Gathering 1965-2016 *will benefit
> from additional input.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZxgEuNuZAg58rvdD9SdwnsjsJUFMpf1UaVlpHDCA6iU/edit
>
> Thank you for your attention to detail.
> Beret
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM, W. J. via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 11:26 AM, W. J. <synergi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I thought we all knew it was Biblical Seminary, later named New York
> Theological Seminary. Many years later its president was George W. (Bill)
> Webber, who taught me @ UTS.
> Marshall
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 9:54 AM, James Wiegel via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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>
> I am sorry . . . I cannot BELIEVE THIS . . .  two of you and neither one
> has Brother Joe right out on their desk?
>
> Never happen if there was a kindle edition!
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> *From:* John Epps via OE <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *To:* Herman Greene <hfgreenenc at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* OE Listserv <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:57 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Oe List ...] This is a message from Doris Hahn
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> His graduate theology studies (after his war experience) were at Yale
> under H. Richard Niebuhr. Like Doris, my copy of Brother Joe is somewhere
> else, but I think it probably names the school in New York.
>
> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Herman Greene via OE <
> oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
>
> Oh, dear! I can't imagine that I wrote that JWM graduated from Perkins
> School of Theology, but it shows up twice (pp. 10 and 19). I know that he
> and Bishop Jim attended some theological school in NYC for a time (he said
> that is where they learned to do "charting"). Certainly, he taught at
> Perkins for four years, but did not attend as a student. Maybe Bishop Jim
> mentioned the NY school in *Brother* *Joe,* but I can't find our copy at
> the moment. Anyone else know where he attended theological school?
>
> Doris Hahn
>
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