[Oe List ...] How Do We Celebrate as a Community

Paul pschrijnen at aol.com
Tue Jan 28 13:14:30 PST 2014


That would be good....very good.  Paul

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jan 2014, at 21:08, Jean Watts <jw at facilitativeleader.com> wrote:

> Jo, Gordon and others,
> Would It be possible to celebrate Wayne's life with a virtual memorial service where those of us from across the world with computers and a phone could join in?  
> I participated in a virtual wedding last year and it truly felt as if I was there so I know this is possible.  They did it with Adobe Connect visual.  We could pair it with GoToMeeting audio so people could both hear and see the celebration but all could participate visually and connect.
> Jean
> 
> On Jan 28, 2014, at 12:46 PM, oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net wrote:
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>> Today's Topics:
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>>  1. How Do We Celebrate as a Community? (Gordon Harper)
>>  2. Wayne (Margaret Aiseayew)
>>  3. Remembering and giving thanks for Wayne (Marilyn Crocker)
>>  4. Re: Wayne (Marsha Hahn)
>>  5. Re: How Do We Celebrate as a Community?
>>     (Dharmalingam Vinasithamby)
>>  6. Wayne Nelson (Beret Griffith)
>>  7. Re: [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson (George Packard)
>>  8. Re: [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson (Sarah H. Buss)
>>  9. Re: Wayne (LAURELCG at aol.com)
>> 10. Re: [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson (Duncan Holmes)
>> 11. Tribute to Wayne Nelson (jlepps at pc.jaring.my)
>> 12. Re: Tribute to Wayne Nelson (Terry Bergdall)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:08:46 -0800
>> From: Gordon Harper <gharper1 at mindspring.com>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] How Do We Celebrate as a Community?
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>> It seems to me not at all easy--in fact, damnably hard--in our dispersed
>> state, to know how best to celebrate a completed life like that of our
>> colleague, Wayne Nelson.  For most of us, it's sharing a story or two and a
>> word of appreciation here on the listservs, which is a practice that I
>> certainly appreciate.
>> 
>> Jo, the family and our colleagues in Canada, when the time is right, may
>> suggest other ways in which we can all somehow participate in the
>> celebration of this unique and remarkable life.  In the meantime, some of
>> us just might have creative thoughts about how we could now do this for one
>> another in the 21st century.
>> 
>> One experiment, launched a few years back on the death of another colleague
>> in Canada (Brian Stanfield), is the *Completions* page on the Repository
>> website.   Here's the link, if you haven't been there for a while:
>> 
>> http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/CompletedLives
>> 
>> Like everything on the Repository, these pages appear when people put them
>> up, and the initial posting of the basic bios, pictures and stories has
>> generally been by the families involved.  (Len, Tim and I are always
>> available to help.)  There's no set format for these pages, and you'll
>> notice that they manifest a variety of forms and stages of completion.
>> 
>> That's one option (but only one), as we think about how we might now
>> celebrate--together in some fashion--these great journeys and marking
>> points.
>> 
>> I don't know--perhaps we should ask, "What would we like the rest of us to
>> do when it's our turn?"
>> 
>> Gordon
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>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 14:34:26 -0600
>> From: "Margaret Aiseayew" <AISEAYEW at NETINS.NET>
>> To: <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Wayne
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>> Dear Jo and all,
>> 
>> This news comes as a great, painful, overwhelming shock.  I am so saddened.
>> 
>> I'm sure that we have all had those dreams that seem to last all night long,
>> even though we awake, get up, go to the bathroom (most of us are old enough
>> to understand that part) and go back to sleep only to be in the same dream
>> again, with greater intensity and detail.  Last night, it was about a death
>> in our community.  The event happened indoors and the body was moved
>> outside, lovingly wrapped and gently held by different ones of us.  There
>> was a huge stage made of blocks of foam all wrapped (actually beautifully
>> sewn) in blue velvet.  A block would be pushed out, a face would appear and
>> a story would be told.  Someone in the circle in front of the stage would
>> put the block back in place.  Someone in the circle would tell a story.
>> Sometimes as someone in the front circle would be telling a story many
>> blocks would come out and the response represented in the story would be
>> acted out.  This only happened when the story needed a massive response of
>> care or demand for justice.  There were tears.  There was laughter.  It was
>> obviously "us" because of recognizable persons in the circle (some of whom I
>> haven't seen for years, some of whom are no longer with us on this plane)
>> and because of the breadth of the geography represented in the stories.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was a gentle night (in the dream) and as morning approached, I woke up.
>> I made some notes.  There was a huge metal framework around the velvet
>> squares which were actually rectangular in shape, that gave the outdoor
>> stage great stability.  As is the case in dreams, there is no explanation
>> for the fact that the entire structure did not collapse when one or many
>> squares came popping out.  I did not want to rise.  I got up a couple of
>> times, got a cup of coffee, fed the cat, and then I went back to lie down
>> because my Monday morning "schedule" is to go through my last week's email.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems rather obvious that a part of me wanted to avoid the news.  Wayne
>> always took me back to my roots, as did the combination of Wayne and Jo.
>> Wayne and I participated in a weekend retreat with Slicker in 66.  I showed
>> up from Morningside and Wayne had arrived from Dakota Wesleyan.  We joked
>> about this connection in places as far removed as Nigeria.  Wayne's ability
>> to recover the story value in events always amazed me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It hasn't reached zero here yet today and last night the winds were in the
>> 30 to 55 mile per hour range.  The house shook most of the night, so there
>> was comfort in the peacefulness of the dream world I entered.  Now, I am
>> reminded of the Buddhist traditional understanding that great winds appear
>> with the passing of great teachers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems a bit self-centered to have bored you all with this weary tale, but
>> it seemed important to me to remind us of how intimately we are connected.
>> If you should have any doubts, Jo, about the sincerity of those who have
>> mentioned that they are holding you and the boys in their thoughts and
>> prayers, let them go.  Care for yourselves and know that you are being held
>> in a powerful circle of light and love and deep respect.  We recognize a
>> great life, greatly lived, with phenomenal impact on the whole of a huge
>> personal particular circle and on behalf of thousands of persons who will
>> never even know Wayne's name that are spread across the planet.  They are
>> richer for his expenditure on their behalf and poorer for not having had the
>> blessing of those of us who have known you both.
>> 
>> With love and care, Margaret
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>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:28:40 -0500
>> From: "Marilyn Crocker" <marilyncrocker at juno.com>
>> To: "'Margaret Aiseayew'" <AISEAYEW at NETINS.NET>,
>>    <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Remembering and giving thanks for Wayne
>> Message-ID: <006901cf1baf$2188e480$649aad80$@juno.com>
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>> Dear colleagues, the Nelson/Zhart family, Margaret, Gordon and so many
>> others,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For Jo and her immediate and extended family, Joe and I give deep and
>> heartfelt thanks that Wayne invested his life with us in so many places on
>> planet earth.  For me it was Bayad and Jamaica - in both spots I witnessed
>> and partnered with the Nelson family as a missional force I recognized was
>> "for good".  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In Jamaica, when Joe and I were permeating in FL to provide income for the
>> CEDA "match" to Jamaica - we never really understood what that was all
>> about, but it related to Canada, so Joe was pleased -I was invited as a
>> consultant for a SP training.  That was a sideline pro forma event - the
>> important time for me was when Wayne drove me and others from Kingston up to
>> the Blue Mountains in a jeep, around serpentine roads, introduced me to
>> people who were related to the project, and  narrated the "life experiences"
>> of these amazing folk who decided to become the HDP in Jamaica.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On the way back I knew I had a return flight I needed to catch.  Wayne was
>> driving the white jeep down the winding, one-way roads, and there was an
>> accident (not his cause). Dealing with such a "confrontation" in translation
>> took a lot of time.  Wayne was wonderful.  He resolved it all with respect
>> to the "offender" and got us to the airport right on time.  (My Hero!)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The last time Joe Crocker and I spent time with Wayne and Jo was at Stan and
>> Miriam's home in Toronto, on the occasion of celebrating Brian Stanfield's
>> completed life.  I loved "hanging out" in Stan & Miriam's kitchen with the
>> Nelsons, who were so energized about what they were doing in so many
>> different sectors.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe and I will forever remember Wayne and Jo in that moment.  We returned to
>> the States after that wonderful weekend energized.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> May you, Wayne, continue to "mount up on eagles wings," and we will watch
>> for you!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Marilyn and Joe Crocker
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Margaret Aiseayew
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 3:34 PM
>> To: OE at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Wayne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Jo and all,
>> 
>> This news comes as a great, painful, overwhelming shock.  I am so saddened.
>> 
>> I'm sure that we have all had those dreams that seem to last all night long,
>> even though we awake, get up, go to the bathroom (most of us are old enough
>> to understand that part) and go back to sleep only to be in the same dream
>> again, with greater intensity and detail.  Last night, it was about a death
>> in our community.  The event happened indoors and the body was moved
>> outside, lovingly wrapped and gently held by different ones of us.  There
>> was a huge stage made of blocks of foam all wrapped (actually beautifully
>> sewn) in blue velvet.  A block would be pushed out, a face would appear and
>> a story would be told.  Someone in the circle in front of the stage would
>> put the block back in place.  Someone in the circle would tell a story.
>> Sometimes as someone in the front circle would be telling a story many
>> blocks would come out and the response represented in the story would be
>> acted out.  This only happened when the story needed a massive response of
>> care or demand for justice.  There were tears.  There was laughter.  It was
>> obviously "us" because of recognizable persons in the circle (some of whom I
>> haven't seen for years, some of whom are no longer with us on this plane)
>> and because of the breadth of the geography represented in the stories.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was a gentle night (in the dream) and as morning approached, I woke up.
>> I made some notes.  There was a huge metal framework around the velvet
>> squares which were actually rectangular in shape, that gave the outdoor
>> stage great stability.  As is the case in dreams, there is no explanation
>> for the fact that the entire structure did not collapse when one or many
>> squares came popping out.  I did not want to rise.  I got up a couple of
>> times, got a cup of coffee, fed the cat, and then I went back to lie down
>> because my Monday morning "schedule" is to go through my last week's email.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems rather obvious that a part of me wanted to avoid the news.  Wayne
>> always took me back to my roots, as did the combination of Wayne and Jo.
>> Wayne and I participated in a weekend retreat with Slicker in 66.  I showed
>> up from Morningside and Wayne had arrived from Dakota Wesleyan.  We joked
>> about this connection in places as far removed as Nigeria.  Wayne's ability
>> to recover the story value in events always amazed me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It hasn't reached zero here yet today and last night the winds were in the
>> 30 to 55 mile per hour range.  The house shook most of the night, so there
>> was comfort in the peacefulness of the dream world I entered.  Now, I am
>> reminded of the Buddhist traditional understanding that great winds appear
>> with the passing of great teachers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It seems a bit self-centered to have bored you all with this weary tale, but
>> it seemed important to me to remind us of how intimately we are connected.
>> If you should have any doubts, Jo, about the sincerity of those who have
>> mentioned that they are holding you and the boys in their thoughts and
>> prayers, let them go.  Care for yourselves and know that you are being held
>> in a powerful circle of light and love and deep respect.  We recognize a
>> great life, greatly lived, with phenomenal impact on the whole of a huge
>> personal particular circle and on behalf of thousands of persons who will
>> never even know Wayne's name that are spread across the planet.  They are
>> richer for his expenditure on their behalf and poorer for not having had the
>> blessing of those of us who have known you both.
>> 
>> With love and care, Margaret
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:43:07 -0600
>> From: Marsha Hahn <mhahn013 at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: Margaret Aiseayew <AISEAYEW at NETINS.NET>
>> Cc: "<OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>" <OE at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wayne
>> Message-ID: <93C19F55-A740-4F40-99BE-90179C9033FB at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Thank you, Margaret, for sharing your powerful and beautiful dream.
>> 
>> Jo, we join with so many others in holding you and your family in our hearts.  Many fond thoughts of Wayne.  The words integrity and steadfastness keep coming to me.
>> 
>> Marsha and Pat
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2014, at 2:34 PM, "Margaret Aiseayew" <AISEAYEW at NETINS.NET> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Jo and all,
>>> This news comes as a great, painful, overwhelming shock.  I am so saddened.
>>> I?m sure that we have all had those dreams that seem to last all night long, even though we awake, get up, go to the bathroom (most of us are old enough to understand that part) and go back to sleep only to be in the same dream again, with greater intensity and detail.  Last night, it was about a death in our community.  The event happened indoors and the body was moved outside, lovingly wrapped and gently held by different ones of us.  There was a huge stage made of blocks of foam all wrapped (actually beautifully sewn) in blue velvet.  A block would be pushed out, a face would appear and a story would be told.  Someone in the circle in front of the stage would put the block back in place.  Someone in the circle would tell a story.  Sometimes as someone in the front circle would be telling a story many blocks would come out and the response represented in the story would be acted out.  This only happened when the story needed a massive response of care or demand for justi
> c
>> e.  There were tears.  There was laughter.  It was obviously ?us? because of recognizable persons in the circle (some of whom I haven?t seen for years, some of whom are no longer with us on this plane) and because of the breadth of the geography represented in the stories.
>>> 
>>> It was a gentle night (in the dream) and as morning approached, I woke up.  I made some notes.  There was a huge metal framework around the velvet squares which were actually rectangular in shape, that gave the outdoor stage great stability.  As is the case in dreams, there is no explanation for the fact that the entire structure did not collapse when one or many squares came popping out.  I did not want to rise.  I got up a couple of times, got a cup of coffee, fed the cat, and then I went back to lie down because my Monday morning ?schedule? is to go through my last week?s email.
>>> 
>>> It seems rather obvious that a part of me wanted to avoid the news.  Wayne always took me back to my roots, as did the combination of Wayne and Jo.  Wayne and I participated in a weekend retreat with Slicker in 66.  I showed up from Morningside and Wayne had arrived from Dakota Wesleyan.  We joked about this connection in places as far removed as Nigeria.  Wayne?s ability to recover the story value in events always amazed me.
>>> 
>>> It hasn?t reached zero here yet today and last night the winds were in the 30 to 55 mile per hour range.  The house shook most of the night, so there was comfort in the peacefulness of the dream world I entered.  Now, I am reminded of the Buddhist traditional understanding that great winds appear with the passing of great teachers.
>>> 
>>> It seems a bit self-centered to have bored you all with this weary tale, but it seemed important to me to remind us of how intimately we are connected.   If you should have any doubts, Jo, about the sincerity of those who have mentioned that they are holding you and the boys in their thoughts and prayers, let them go.  Care for yourselves and know that you are being held in a powerful circle of light and love and deep respect.  We recognize a great life, greatly lived, with phenomenal impact on the whole of a huge personal particular circle and on behalf of thousands of persons who will never even know Wayne?s name that are spread across the planet.  They are richer for his expenditure on their behalf and poorer for not having had the blessing of those of us who have known you both.
>>> With love and care, Margaret
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 17:22:25 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Dharmalingam Vinasithamby <dvinasithamby at yahoo.com>
>> To: Gordon Harper <gharper1 at mindspring.com>,    Order Ecumenical
>>    Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] How Do We Celebrate as a Community?
>> Message-ID:
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>> Thank you Gordon. I just went to the Completions page, my first visit, and read the page on David McClesky. It was a profound experience and certainly one good way of participating in the celebration of completed lives in our community. I am inspired to contribute pages on two other late colleagues and shall do so in due course.
>> 
>> regards
>> 
>> Dharmalingam
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Gordon Harper <gharper1 at mindspring.com>
>>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:08 AM
>>> Subject: [Oe List ...] How Do We Celebrate as a Community?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It seems to me not at all easy--in fact, damnably hard--in our dispersed state, to know how best to celebrate a completed life like that of our colleague, Wayne Nelson. ?For most of us, it's sharing a story or two and a word of appreciation here on the listservs, which is a practice that I certainly appreciate.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jo, the family and our colleagues in Canada, when the time is right, may suggest other ways in which we can all somehow participate in the celebration of this unique and remarkable life. ?In the meantime, some of us just might have creative thoughts about how we could now do this for one another in the 21st century. ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> One experiment, launched a few years back on the death of another colleague in Canada (Brian Stanfield), is the?Completions?page on the Repository website. ? Here's the link, if you haven't been there for a while:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://wiki.wedgeblade.net/bin/view/Main/CompletedLives
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Like everything on the Repository, these pages appear when people put them up, and the initial posting of the basic bios, pictures and stories has generally been by the families involved. ?(Len, Tim and I are always available to help.) ?There's no set format for these pages, and you'll notice that they manifest a variety of forms and stages of completion.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That's one option (but?only one),?as we think about how we might now celebrate--together in some fashion--these great journeys and marking points. ?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I don't know--perhaps we should ask, "What would we like the rest of us to do when it's our turn?"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 20:47:28 -0600
>> From: "Beret Griffith" <beretgriffith at charter.net>
>> To: "Dialogue" <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>, "OE"
>>    <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Wayne Nelson
>> Message-ID: <018701cf1bd3$486c24d0$d9446e70$@charter.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> The loss of Wayne.Hard to find words. Saturday while driving home from the
>> funeral for Paul's father in Texas,  I read Jo and Wayne's Christmas letter
>> to Paul. Their lives seemed close at hand. Wayne and Jo have been lights in
>> my life for years.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The day before we left to drive to Texas, the  second week in January,
>> Duncan Holmes was helping me find the source of a document for inclusion in
>> one of the ICA Global Archives collections. Wayne was a part of the
>> conversation. He mentioned he was working on a document, ToP Methods
>> Foundation. He'd completed 17 pages and was eager to keep writing. He sent
>> me a draft and I had been looking forward to reading the draft and
>> eventually, his completed work. Today I printed the draft with a deep sense
>> of loss of a  special colleague and friend. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Over the years I've experienced Wayne's capacity to listen to a conversation
>> on Dialogue or OE, take it all in, and craft a wise, synthesizing response.
>> I will miss his contributions to our ongoing collective conversations and am
>> thankful for his long presence among us. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From our common memory.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Journey On
>> 
>> Tune: From Elcho Island
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Journey on, Journey  on, all Humankind, future is waiting for you.
>> 
>> Struggling, stumbling, all the life through, future is waiting for you.
>> 
>> (Hum the tune)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Opportunities, opportunities, all in your hand, our minds are limited to
>> foretell.
>> 
>> All of your own, and nature of unseen, future is waiting for you.
>> 
>> (Hum the tune)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Journey on, journey on, all Humankind, future is waiting for you. 
>> 
>> ALL TOGETHER NOW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Beret
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 22:07:05 -0700
>> From: "George Packard" <george.packard1 at rcn.com>
>> To: "'Duncan Holmes'" <dholmes at ica-associates.ca>,    "'Colleague
>>    Dialogue'" <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Cc: 'Order Ecumenical Community' <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson
>> Message-ID: <030501cf1be6$ca0fb9d0$5e2f2d70$@rcn.com>
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>> We hold all of us in our prayers and contemplations as we live facing more
>> or less clearly the endings of our own particular lives. We focus special
>> light on Jo, Aaron and Tim as they and we adjust as a revised blessed
>> community. Wayne has honed and chiseled heart and rationality into some of
>> our best models in facilitation, design, and community development. He has
>> led much of the band width in our common technical knowledge and ability to
>> work on line even before the new software emerged. He has been a sustaining
>> support of the archives of ICA Associates from which we have all been
>> resourced. He and Jo enabled the HDP in South Texas survive its many
>> challenges. He lived his creativity whether in front facilitating or
>> teaching the group, or more often from the back room creating the documents
>> or designing the new product and discerning and fine tuning his human
>> spirit.
>> Well done dear brother, 
>> George Packard   
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
>> [mailto:dialogue-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Holmes
>> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:44 PM
>> To: Colleague Dialogue
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community
>> Subject: [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wayne Nelson died this afternoon at 2:45pm. He was in his basement workshop,
>> a place where he loved to be. He was always creating something there. We
>> think he had a heart attack and died very quickly.  Arrangements for his
>> service will be made in the next few days and we will send the information
>> out.
>> 
>> Jo's boys and daughter-in-law are with her and we are supporting them in
>> this journey.
>> 
>> Duncan Holmes
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 06:45:03 -0600
>> From: "Sarah H. Buss" <shbuss at mac.com>
>> To: Duncan Holmes <dholmes at ica-associates.ca>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,    Order
>>    Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson
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>> Jo et al,
>> 
>> So many memories
>> so few words
>> 
>> Bayad weeps
>> as do I, with you.
>> 
>> Love returned
>> in full measure.
>> 
>> Sarah
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Duncan Holmes <dholmes at ica-associates.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wayne Nelson died this afternoon at 2:45pm. He was in his basement workshop, a place where he loved to be. He was always creating something there. We think he had a heart attack and died very quickly.  Arrangements for his service will be made in the next few days and we will send the information out.
>>> 
>>> Jo's boys and daughter-in-law are with her and we are supporting them in this journey.
>>> 
>>> Duncan Holmes
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>> 
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:56:08 -0500 (EST)
>> From: LAURELCG at aol.com
>> To: Oe at wedgeblade.net
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Wayne
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>> Thanks for sharing your dream, Margaret. The Order community has been the  
>> setting for so many of my dreams. Architecture and ritual are important 
>> parts of  spiritual community on this plane. So are story telling, laughter and 
>> the  tears many of us are shedding as we read on another's remembrances of  
>> Wayne.
>> 
>> I'm grateful to everyone who is sharing on this string. Loved Gordon's  
>> questions and Sarah's poem.
>> 
>> Wayne, Catherine Whitney and I served as the Emerging Generation staff with 
>> Alice Baumbach as our able prior in 5th City in 1972, two 30-somethings 
>> and  two lively 20-something "kids". For the community Easter celebration 
>> Wayne and  Catherine wrote a pageant and coached the children to act it out in  
>> the Great Hall, with all the saints as witness. At the end, JWM gave it high 
>> praise. As I recall, he said, "This is real art and served our community 
>> as art  is supposed to do." We and all our children glowed at that, as you 
>> can  imagine.
>> 
>> The song for the last supper scene has sustained me for 42 years. We  
>> buried my mother's ashes in Floydada, Texas, on July 1, 2012, her  100th birthay. 
>> It was a Sunday, and our family shared the Lord's Supper at  the graveside, 
>> during which I sang Wayne and Catherine's song, to the  tune of "Blowing in 
>> the Wind."
>> 
>> This is my body, I give unto you.
>> It's broken, that's the way that life is real.
>> And this is my blood that is spilled out for you.
>> It's given, that's the way that life is real.
>> 
>> Eat this bread and drink this cup,
>> And you shall have eternal life.
>> For brokenness is givenness, and givenness is good,
>> And it's a joy to know the truth about your life.
>> 
>> Wayne's whole life was a work of real art and served the world as art is  
>> supposed to do.
>> 
>> Love and blessings,
>> Jann McGuire
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 1/27/2014 12:38:17 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
>> AISEAYEW at NETINS.NET writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Jo and  all, 
>> This news comes as a great,  painful, overwhelming shock.  I am so 
>> saddened. 
>> I?m sure that we have all had  those dreams that seem to last all night 
>> long, even though we awake, get up,  go to the bathroom (most of us are old 
>> enough to understand that part) and go  back to sleep only to be in the same 
>> dream again, with greater intensity and  detail.  Last night, it was about a 
>> death in our community.  The  event happened indoors and the body was moved 
>> outside, lovingly wrapped and  gently held by different ones of us.  There 
>> was a huge stage made of  blocks of foam all wrapped (actually beautifully 
>> sewn) in blue velvet.  A  block would be pushed out, a face would appear and a 
>> story would be  told.  Someone in the circle in front of the stage would put 
>> the block  back in place.  Someone in the circle would tell a story.  
>> Sometimes  as someone in the front circle would be telling a story many blocks 
>> would come  out and the response represented in the story would be acted out.  
>> This  only happened when the story needed a massive response of care or 
>> demand for  justice.  There were tears.  There was laughter.  It was  obviously 
>> ?us? because of recognizable persons in the circle (some of whom I  haven?
>> t seen for years, some of whom are no longer with us on this plane) and  
>> because of the breadth of the geography represented in the  stories. 
>> It was a gentle night (in the  dream) and as morning approached, I woke up. 
>> I made some notes.   There was a huge metal framework around the velvet 
>> squares which were actually  rectangular in shape, that gave the outdoor stage 
>> great stability.  As is  the case in dreams, there is no explanation for 
>> the fact that the entire  structure did not collapse when one or many squares 
>> came popping out.  I  did not want to rise.  I got up a couple of times, got 
>> a cup of coffee,  fed the cat, and then I went back to lie down because my 
>> Monday morning  ?schedule? is to go through my last week?s email. 
>> It seems rather obvious that  a part of me wanted to avoid the news.  Wayne 
>> always took me back to my  roots, as did the combination of Wayne and Jo.  
>> Wayne and I participated  in a weekend retreat with Slicker in 66.  I showed 
>> up from Morningside  and Wayne had arrived from Dakota Wesleyan.  We joked 
>> about this  connection in places as far removed as Nigeria.  Wayne?s ability 
>> to  recover the story value in events always amazed me. 
>> It hasn?t reached zero here  yet today and last night the winds were in the 
>> 30 to 55 mile per hour  range.  The house shook most of the night, so there 
>> was comfort in the  peacefulness of the dream world I entered.  Now, I am 
>> reminded of the  Buddhist traditional understanding that great winds appear 
>> with the passing of  great teachers. 
>> It seems a bit self-centered  to have bored you all with this weary tale, 
>> but it seemed important to me to  remind us of how intimately we are 
>> connected.   If you should have  any doubts, Jo, about the sincerity of those who 
>> have mentioned that they are  holding you and the boys in their thoughts and 
>> prayers, let them go.   Care for yourselves and know that you are being held 
>> in a powerful circle of  light and love and deep respect.  We recognize a 
>> great life, greatly  lived, with phenomenal impact on the whole of a huge 
>> personal particular  circle and on behalf of thousands of persons who will never 
>> even know Wayne?s  name that are spread across the planet.  They are richer 
>> for his  expenditure on their behalf and poorer for not having had the 
>> blessing of  those of us who have known you both. 
>> With love and care,  Margaret
>> 
>> 
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>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:39:40 -0500
>> From: Duncan Holmes <dholmes at ica-associates.ca>
>> Cc: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue at lists.wedgeblade.net>,    Order
>>    Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] [Dialogue] Wayne Nelson
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>> Jo has asked me to send the following
>> 
>> "I really appreciate all the messages through the two ICA lists, neither of which I am on.  
>> 
>> Would you please tell them I am deeply grateful for their thoughts, prayers, energies, and stories.  I am harvesting tributes from their emails for the celebration, and I intend to respond more personally and directly at a later time."
>> 
>> Duncan
>> 
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:50:26 -0700
>> From: "jlepps at pc.jaring.my" <jlepps at pc.jaring.my>
>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: [Oe List ...] Tribute to Wayne Nelson
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>> The tributes to Wayne that have come in catalogue 
>> many of his multiple and admirable qualities.  He 
>> was a gifted facilitator, an extraordinary 
>> community developer, an artistic woodworker, a 
>> consummate story-teller, a skilled outdoorsman, 
>> and a talented IT guru. That barely scratches the 
>> surface, but it?s difficult at the completion of 
>> a life to formulate an appropriate tribute to one of such diverse abilities.
>> 
>> There?s one, however, that needs additional 
>> mention: Wayne was also a philosopher of 
>> considerable prowess. The question which he 
>> pursued with passion and intensity was: What are 
>> the philosophical roots of the ToP? (Technology 
>> of Participation) methods? And he didn't mean 
>> Bultmann, Niebuhr, Tillich, and Bonhoeffer. He 
>> meant their ancestors. He meant Heidegger and 
>> Husserl, Kierkegaard and Sartre, Bergson, and 
>> Hume and many others. And he was working to 
>> document how their insights influenced and shaped 
>> what became our methods and how these foundations 
>> might guide us in the future.
>> 
>> The aim of his research was to prevent the ToP 
>> methods from becoming perfunctory or shallow and 
>> reflecting only superficial pop-psychology. As he 
>> said, ?That's not us, and I believe our approach 
>> is significantly unique and valuable enough to 
>> carry it firmly into this century.  This 
>> ontological, participatory approach to group work 
>> is totally necessary if the world is to move forward.? (2 May 2011)
>> 
>> Wayne has written a 35-page paper entitled ?ToP 
>> Foundations: Facilitating the Consciousness of 
>> Consciousness of Consciousness.? That title 
>> clearly indicates Wayne?s passion for getting to 
>> the substance of what we?re all about. As he put 
>> it, ?Where have these ideas come from? What do we 
>> have now? Where can they take us??
>> 
>> Those pages are the Introduction and first 
>> chapter of a book that now he will not complete. 
>> It would be a fitting tribute to this great 
>> colleague to have them published for the ToP Network.
>> 
>> We will greatly miss this man of passion and depth.
>> 
>> --Ann and John Epps
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:27:05 -0600
>> From: Terry Bergdall <bergdall2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "jlepps at pc.jaring.my" <jlepps at pc.jaring.my>
>> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Tribute to Wayne Nelson
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>> Wayne's work on the deep underpinnings of ToP, and all ICA-related
>> programs, and ways to make it accessible to a new generation, is one of his
>> passions that I truly appreciated. It is an important project to keep
>> alive.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM, jlepps at pc.jaring.my
>> <jlepps at pc.jaring.my>wrote:
>> 
>>> The tributes to Wayne that have come in catalogue many of his multiple
>>> and admirable qualities.  He was a gifted facilitator, an extraordinary
>>> community developer, an artistic woodworker, a consummate story-teller, a
>>> skilled outdoorsman, and a talented IT guru. That barely scratches the
>>> surface, but it's difficult at the completion of a life to formulate an
>>> appropriate tribute to one of such diverse abilities.
>>> 
>>> There's one, however, that needs additional mention: Wayne was also a
>>> philosopher of considerable prowess. The question which he pursued with
>>> passion and intensity was: What are the philosophical roots of the ToP(R)(Technology of Participation) methods? And he didn't mean Bultmann,
>>> Niebuhr, Tillich, and Bonhoeffer. He meant their ancestors. He meant
>>> Heidegger and Husserl, Kierkegaard and Sartre, Bergson, and Hume and many
>>> others. And he was working to document how their insights influenced and
>>> shaped what became our methods and how these foundations might guide us in
>>> the future.
>>> 
>>> The aim of his research was to prevent the ToP methods from becoming
>>> perfunctory or shallow and reflecting only superficial pop-psychology. As
>>> he said, *"That's not us, and I believe our approach is significantly
>>> unique and valuable enough to carry it firmly into this century.  This
>>> ontological, participatory approach to group work is totally necessary if
>>> the world is to move forward."* (2 May 2011)
>>> 
>>> Wayne has written a 35-page paper entitled "ToP Foundations: Facilitating
>>> the Consciousness of Consciousness of Consciousness." That title clearly
>>> indicates Wayne's passion for getting to the substance of what we're all
>>> about. As he put it,
>>> *"Where have these ideas come from? What do we have now? Where can they
>>> take us?" *
>>> Those pages are the Introduction and first chapter of a book that now he
>>> will not complete. It would be a fitting tribute to this great colleague to
>>> have them published for the ToP Network.
>>> 
>>> We will greatly miss this man of passion and depth.
>>> 
>>> --Ann and John Epps
>>> 
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