[Oe List ...] The Roman Catholic Church, the Old Catholic movement, and our common memory

Herman Greene hfgreene at mindspring.com
Thu May 3 07:28:37 PDT 2012

Very interesting about independent Catholic churches.


Now tell us about:

. new monasticism

. emergent churches

. co-located congregations




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[mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of David M Dunn
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 10:22 AM
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Subject: [Oe List ...] The Roman Catholic Church, the Old Catholic
movement,and our common memory


On May 3, 2012, at 4:16 AM, R Williams wrote:

To the point, what is the state of being of an organization, i.e. the
Catholic Church, where people can't go to the bathroom without hierarchical
permission?  These guys are so afraid of losing control that they're
rendering the church irrelevant, and losing control.  Just one more sign, I
fear, of institutional decay.



There are interesting developments in the historical church:

            . new monasticism

            . emergent churches

            . co-located congregations

            . independent Catholic churches


I know the most about the Ecumenical Catholic Communion (ECC), a 13-year old
network organization of nearly 50 autonomous Catholic parishes around the
U.S. Think: 

            . Catholic, but not "Roman"

            . sacramental, eucharistic

            . married priests, ordained women

            . welcoming gays and lesbians

            . transparent, decentralized polity

            . apostolic succession with clergy-laity parity

            . acknowledging the Bishop of Rome, but not the Papacy


The ECC is wrestling with movemental challenges that will resonate with many
of us:

            . a young, growing organization

            . local self-sufficiency and decisional autonomy

            . structural contradictions

            . the role of symbolic leaders

            . bureaucratic systems and participatory process

            . organizational capacity building

            . depth spirit formation

            . sharing common memory

            . rapid leadership development


The "bottom line" - the need for an order colleague network to mentor the

Are any of you intrigued with making yourselves available to this movement
as mentors to individuals, ECC parishes, or projects. I'm exploring a
"creative companioning" relationship with ECC colleagues and wish I had a
few order colleagues with whom I could consult and collaborate.


Be in touch. Let's explore.



David Dunn




David Dunn
740 S Alton Way 9B
Denver, CO 80247
dmdunn1 at gmail.com


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