[Oe List ...] OE Digest, Vol 3, Issue 11. Enjoyable White people

Sun Jun 3 19:16:50 PDT 2012

I'm just wondering if any of our Black colleagues would like to name or
describe or tell stories about white people they might remember working
with back in the day. (tongue in cheek) :P

On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:27 PM, <oe-request at lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:

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>   1. Re: Being Black in the Order Ecumenical (Herman Greene)
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> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 12:36:41 -0400
> From: "Herman Greene" <hfgreene at mindspring.com>
> To: "'Order Ecumenical Community'" <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
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> Thanks for the report on Robert Shropshire's funeral. It is so sad to
> imagine that such bundled energy passes into the universe. Who knows what
> from there?
>
> As far as being black in the order, in a sense the whole experience of
> coming to Summer 67 and then living in Fifth City with EI was all about
> meeting black. Those black people in our order stood out. I remember Joe
> Matthews once saying "Imagine what I could do if I were black!" He meant
> that blacks had a special role to play at that time and a special power.
>
> But when I talk about meeting black, I mean so many things. I remember the
> Saturday night festivals at Summer '67. Black power, black history, the
> violence, the delightful bright colleagues in Fifth City, the Fifth City
> preschool and project, the Iron Man. They were all part of the order in
> those days. There was really no real line between order and community.
>
> Black transformed me. I will never be the same.
>
> Herman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
> [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of John Cock
> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 8:03 AM
> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
>
> Helen Estridge was her name.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
> [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of Ann Shafer
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:32 PM
> To: 'Order Ecumenical Community'
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
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> Yes, we did, Jim, the Fifth City to the World trip where we took the bus
> from Chicago to Miami. We chartered a bus. The whole trip cost each person
> $200. We raffled off one trip. I organized the itinerary, then Alice and
> Jim
> Baumbach spiritized it. We had so much fun. When the ship arrived in
> Nassau,
> the Bahamian Minister of Tourism met the ship and said he was there to
> escort the Fifth Citizens. Then he took us on a private tour of Nassau and
> a
> village they were recreating to look like 100 years ago or so. So much fun.
> We ate at colleagues' homes and churches all the way down and back and
> slept
> on the bus - no stops for sleeping until we got on the ship. Each cabin was
> 4 beds, 2 above and 2 below, and was for either men or for women. And get
> this - the line was the Costa Line, the one that just had that awful
> accident in the Mediterranean. But we had no troubles at all, just a lot of
> fun. One lady from Fifth City whose name I don't remember had only one leg
> and got around on crutches. She did really well. Watching the Fifth City
> women flirt with the Italian waiters on the ship (and vice  versa of
> course)
> was great. Pina coladas cost only 80 cents each on the ship. That I
> remember! The year was 1974. Ann
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of James Wiegel
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 12:03 PM
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> Cc: Order Ecumenical Community
> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
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> You sang on the bus all the way to the Bahamas ?  Wow.
>
> Jim Wiegel
> Jfwiegel at yahoo.com
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> I can't say as I was ever lost, but I was bewildered once for three days.
> Daniel Boone
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2012, at 18:25, "Ann Shafer" <asgoodasitgets at hughes.net> wrote:
>
> > And I so enjoyed working with everyone in Fifth City but most
> > especially Velma Brocks who is my daughter, Catherine's, godmother.
> > Velma could say so much without saying anything. She and I handled the
> > Fifth City payroll for awhile. Plus David and I had a wonderful time
> > on the Fifth City to the World trip to the Bahamas so beautifully
> > enabled and spiritized by Alice and Jim Baumbach. Remember Peggy who
> > led the singing on our bus all the way there and back? I know the
> > Fifth Citizens were not O:E but they were our colleagues and mentors.
> > Ann Stewart Shafer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net
> > [mailto:oe-bounces at lists.wedgeblade.net] On Behalf Of David Scott
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 10:23 AM
> > To: Order Ecumenical Community
> > Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
> >
> > Phylis Christmas
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Nancy Lanphear <nancy at songaia.com>
> wrote:
> >> Dear Ones,
> >>
> >> Our common memory is such a gift.  Each of us can let go of some of
> >> our worry about loosing our own.  Thanks for sharing your memories
> >> with
> > me.
> >>
> >> Love,
> >>
> >> Nancy
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 7:48 AM, E B <marosel2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Who can forget Dawn Lingo and Lynette Shanklin?
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Mary Laura Jones <mljones2022 at gmail.com>
> >>> To: Order Ecumenical Community <oe at lists.wedgeblade.net>
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 9:37 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] Being Black in the Order Ecumenical
> >>>
> >>> I learned so much from Lois Reeves and Emma Melton in the Cleveland
> >>> Region. I am so grateful for their presence in our lives. Many
> >>> things they said still make me smile. Their wisdom and leadership
> >>> were very important in the ICA's work.
> >>>
> >>> Mary Laura Jones
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:12 AM, McCabe, Diann A <dm14 at txstate.edu>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sharon Turner stands out for me. Vincent Scott and Mary. And deep
> >>> colleague in Mississippi, the late Ruth Wilson.
> >>>
> >>> Diann McCabe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 6/1/12 8:17 AM, "Nancy Lanphear" <nancy at songaia.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dear Randy,
> >>>
> >>> I, too would appreciate hearing some of the stories about what it
> >>> was like to be black in the Order.  I remember Phoebe Reynolds,
> >>> Christine Harris, and some of the children  .... Tad and Todd
> >>> Mueller,
> Eric
> >>> Shropshire, Adam and Kaira Lingo, Emanuel Ward, Kevin Woodward   ...
> >>> I am sorry , who are the others who have slipped through my memory
> >>> ...?  Thank you Joyce and Randy
> >>>
> >>> Nancy
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:55 AM, R Williams <rcwmbw at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Joyce,
> >>>
> >>> Your brief comment, in remembering Robert Shropshire, about what it
> >>> was like to be black and to have been in the O:E has me wanting to
> >>> hear more about what that experience was like, and trying to recall
> >>> our black Order colleagues prior to our being dispersed around the
> >>> globe, embracing cultures of color everywhere.
> >>>
> >>> In addition to you, Carlos and Shropshire, I remember Larry Ward,
> >>> Nadine Ward, Harold Williams and Richard whose last name was, I
> >>> think,
> > Epson.
> >>> Other faces are pictured in my mind's eye whose names I cannot
> >>> recall.  Who were they?
> >>>
> >>> My interest is peaked by the fact that the white majority, in the
> >>> U.S at least, is shrinking and will likely soon no longer exist,
> >>> combined with the fact that there is a glimmer of indication that
> >>> cultural diversity of all kinds is coming to be not only tolerated
> >>> but embraced by more and more people.
> >>>
> >>> On behalf of the future, with an eye toward how all people may live
> >>> together in peace on this flat, increasingly diverse and crowded
> >>> planet, I would love to hear more of your reflections, as well as
> >>> those of others, on what it was like then to be black and in the O:E
> >>> and what, with 50 years of experience behind us, we all have
> >>> learned.
> >>>
> >>> A conversation like this could be a fitting tribute to Robert,
> >>> Nadine, Harold and others now departed who have impacted our
> >>> community and consciousness over the years.
> >>>
> >>> Randy
> >>>
> >>> "Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in
> >>> the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as
> >>> it
> > desires."
> >>> -Martin Buber (adapted)
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