<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default">I hear from my sons what Debra hears.</div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default">Thus I am very interested in what happens in the Oklahoma Human Community effort Bill Parker is a part of. The first meeting toward an Oklahoma Statewide Congress went very well last Saturday.</div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default">Sunny Walker and I have a weekly zoom with Bill in support of that effort. All 3 of us would welcome others. </div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default">The end run around tribalism and the resultant zero sum game of who wins and who loses, is engaging everyone in conversation where all feel heard and are called to care for all. IMHO of course.</div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-size:large" class="gmail_default">Peace</div><br clear="all"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Don Bushman<br></div><div><img width="96" height="77" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4zOIu3LEC6MFTWTu0KY7E502yfIl5gyrUcU9KlzwS-rSnRYeib0f_TPP7f9TiS5-tpufMUq26vAwWag"> <img width="96" height="96" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wgIOy7oWy3z_VRwzsBpODEX3NNQ9JDo77bNqvSsjWJ9GswXJj_6KMPdFE-dzLVIcOLFPbwXCt5GgEQ"><br></div><div>828-292-9696<b><br></b></div><br></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:03 AM Debra Harris via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
Spirit conversations on social anger are highly relevant today: polarization, demonization of immigrants and people of color, anger about the economy and state of the world, climate change and impending crisis, anger from youth about the world they’ve been left with and not enough done to mitigate due to powerful interests. <div><br></div><div>My son says a lot of people his age carry anger and sorrow, sorrow that millions or even billions could be left behind or die due to ecological collapse, economic chaos and collapse of democratic systems, starting with the most vulnerable. As authoritarianism increasingly becomes a dominant mode; it blocks civic engagement and thus blocks local and regional participation to create new responses and solutions. </div><div><br></div><div>Our study of Choosing Earth could be a future venue, among other avenues, to engage youth along with cross generational conversations for discussion and engagement to create a future for all: as we must never loose hope, never give in to despair or apathy. </div><div><br></div><div>Toward creating a future for all of life,</div><div>Debra Harris Watson</div><div>Houston <br><br><div><a style="font-size:12px" href="https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=9d3a686e-218d-4849-8298-b480188dc8ac&af_android_url=https%3A%2F%2Fplay.google.com%2Fstore%2Fapps%2Fdetails%3Fid%3Dcom.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail%26listing%3Demail_signature" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p style="font-size:15px;color:rgb(132,115,255);padding-top:15px;margin-top:0px">On Monday, July 14, 2025, 1:33 AM, Ronnie Seagren via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote><div id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350"><div><div dir="ltr">And don't forget about the spirit conversations about social anger. They were either in 1968 or 1970, and had a profound effect on me, as a young person.<div>I don't recall the questions but they might be relevant today.<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Ronnie</div></div></div><br clear="none"><div><div id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350yqt46407"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 7:47 PM James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks. So, comprehensive news coverage has been challenging for a while<div><br clear="none" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div>
<p><span>“…the long work<br clear="none">
of turning their lives<br clear="none">
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is not easy. Come </span><span style="font-size:19pt">and let us talk</span><span style="font-size:19pt">“. </span></p><p><span style="font-size:19pt">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 13, 2025, at 11:14 AM, Jo Nelson <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:jo.r.nelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">jo.r.nelson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>There was some question that connected the two parts — a question to ground the quote in current everyday experience. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I remember two anecdotes about these conversations. One was from Peoria in 1973-4 where Wayne’s and my clock radio would wake us to a program called “Waste Not Want Not”, an environmental program. So we had lots of environmental news over breakfast that year! </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The other story is from Bayad, where Abuna Mateus, the local Coptic Priest usually joined us for breakfast. Josip Tito from Yugoslavia was ill, and Abuna, who heard the Arabic news on the radio but had limited English would always have the news event “Tito has a stomachache.” <br clear="all"><br clear="none">Take care,</div><div>Jo<br clear="none"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>--<br clear="none">Jo Nelson, CPF, CTF <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:jo.r.nelson@gmail.com" target="_blank">jo.r.nelson@gmail.com</a>><br clear="none"></div><div>647 233 6910<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none">"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world.<br clear="none">Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead</div></div></div></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 13, 2025 at 11:53 AM James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="ltr">In the early days (67-72??), we did scripture conversations as a community over breakfast paired with news conversations. Later on (76 ff??), there were quote conversations from those little dark red covered journals that the research people provided also paired with news conversations. I think, during the Kamweleni human development training schools (79-83??) we had 7 quotes which we cycled through each week.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Can you all help me to recall the questions which were used??</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div> Son Shanker's church is going through the book of Proverbs in July (31 chapters / 31 days) and we are going through the week's chapters on Thursdays after dinner.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>This is what I recall</div><div>SCRIPTURE / QUOTE</div><div>Read the verse/quote outloud. Maybe read it a second time?</div><div>What are the key words? What words might we substitute for those words?</div><div>So, How might you say this quote / verse in your own words?</div><div>-------then I get lost</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>NEWS</div><div>What are 1 or 2 news events of the last day or so?</div><div>Which one should we talk about?<br clear="none" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">--------- then I get lost</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103AppleMailSignature"><span style="font-size:13pt"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103AppleMailSignature"><span style="font-size:13pt">I do remember, in Kamweleni, we had a battery operated radio and Sam Were and some of the other faculty would sit out in the sun in the morning and listen to the Voice of Kenya . . .</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103AppleMailSignature"><span style="font-size:13pt"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103AppleMailSignature"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div>
<p><span>“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ </span><span style="font-size:13pt">Stephen Hawking</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 7, 2025, at 6:26 AM, Judy Lindblad via OE <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Amen and I am sorting family and Town Meeting archives as 250 dawns. Hoping to add some to the ICA archives from Schenectady +…..Blessings and happy memories, Judy L</div><div><br clear="none"><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 9:37 PM Ellie Stock via OE <<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"></div>
</div><div id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103m_-926948648851237917ydp18efee6dyahoo_quoted_1848871313"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div id="m_5582890687142493400yiv0971292350m_4272811610270667530m_-1538022735872121103m_-926948648851237917ydp18efee6dyiv8797581470" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><ol style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;list-style:none;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;letter-spacing:normal;color:rgb(82,82,82)"><li style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><div style="margin:30px 20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><div style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="https://davidsuzuki.org/about/declaration-of-interdependence/" style="font-size:18px;line-height:20px;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,0,153)" target="_blank"></a></div></div></li></ol></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="padding:12px 0px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Hi Folks,</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">July 4, 2025, yes, celebrating the birth of a nation and the principles of democracy but also a time to reflect and expand our vision as a nation to celebrate and live into a Declaration of Interdependence.</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">Ellie</div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" href="mailto:elliestock@aol.com" style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" target="_blank">elliestock@aol.com</a> <img title="Emoji" alt="Emoji" height="16" width="16" style="padding: 0px 2px; 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It was written for the 1992 UN Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, where portions of our declaration were woven into the work of others around the world to form the Earth Charter.</span></div></div>
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