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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>My immediate thought is that it’s related the same way that any other construct is related to ‘the gospel.’ The underlying ‘yes’ that penetrates illusions (hamartia – translated as ‘sin’ – literally means to miss the mark), and calls for new mindedness (metanoia translated as ‘repent’ is literally ‘new mind’) and leads to compassion and responsibility to God for all things is the presence in all things. The ‘other world’ is the language we used to describe the range of consciousness and experiences in which we either trust in that ‘yes,’ or do not.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Grounding that in a child’s death, or the political changes around us, or in Kaz’s poetry is not the same as setting litmus test boundaries for the legalistic use of symbolic language that fits a procrustean bed of formal categories.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>FWIW.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bill<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Wiegel via Dialogue<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 12, 2025 9:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> rev.bud@mac.com<br><b>Cc:</b> James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Order Community <oe@wedgeblade.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dialogue] 2 questions about the other world in the midst of this world<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bud asked ( and Jim dodged) this question: "How is the claim of "encountering another world” related to the Gospel?"<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyone??<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am still hoping for a recording of “The Mys’try is Everywhere”<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anyone?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Jim Wiegel</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=p1><span class=s1>“…the long work</span><br><span class=s1>of turning their lives</span><br><span class=s1>into a celebration</span><br><span class=s1>is not easy. Come </span><span style='font-size:19.0pt'>and let us talk“. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span style='font-size:19.0pt'>The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Apr 12, 2025, at 8:15 AM, <a href="mailto:rev.bud@mac.com">rev.bud@mac.com</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>"How is the claim of "encountering another world” related to the Gospel?"<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>
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