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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Umm, just a guess, but I think they are talking about the ‘second coming,’ post-resurrection in the story. Check out the Apostle’s Creed, etc. The construct of history in the classical confessons has an endpoint. Interestingly, the word for ‘end’ in Greek is the same as ‘purpose,’ and the same as ‘perfect’ or ‘finished’ – telos. Where we get teleology or – well, what is your end purpose? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>We can talk about the perspective that the end/purpose of history is grace, transparency, compassion, forgiveness, responsibility – no matter what it looks like now. ‘eschatology’ comes from the Ancient Greek words éschatos ("last") and -logía ("the study of"). Last can also mean ‘ultimate.’<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>FWIW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bill Schlesinger<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Randy Williams via Dialogue<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 9, 2025 1:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br><b>Cc:</b> Randy Williams <randycw1938@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Dialogue] Octavia Butler's "Earthseed" series, "Parable of the Sower, and "Parable of the Talents".<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Someone said, “the babe in the manger was the man on the cross.” Is that what you mean by coming again?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 9, 2025, at 9:55 AM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>By the way, is the babe in the manger you mentioned coming again??<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Jim Wiegel</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=p1><span class=s1>“…the long work</span><br><span class=s1>of turning their lives</span><br><span class=s1>into a celebration</span><br><span class=s1>is not easy. Come </span><span style='font-size:19.0pt'>and let us talk“. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=p1><span style='font-size:19.0pt'>The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 8, 2025, at 7:41 PM, Richard Alton via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Yes, but the good seeds show up at the end- it takes time for them to show up--took a babe in the manager.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 6:37 PM James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Are those the ones where mean people are in charge?? I dont like scary books<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.0pt'>Jim Wiegel</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p>“…the long work<br>of turning their lives<br>into a celebration<br>is not easy. Come <span style='font-size:19.0pt'>and let us talk“. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p><span style='font-size:19.0pt'>The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Jan 8, 2025, at 3:11 PM, Doug Druckenmiller <<a href="mailto:ddrucken@gmail.com" target="_blank">ddrucken@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Octavia Butler's "Earthseed" series, "Parable of the Sower, and "Parable of the Talents".<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Dialogue mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br><a href="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net&source=gmail-imap&ust=1737060592000000&usg=AOvVaw3XySnRhVtSC3Yq5D_F3OD9" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Richard H. 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