<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Thank you, Jim! <div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">From the mobile desk of<div>Jo Nelson <div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Sep 27, 2024, at 5:12 PM, James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="ydp58a7a04ayahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="color: rgb(67, 67, 67); font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">OUR RESPONSES</span></div><div style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in" dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span style="color: rgb(67, 67, 67); font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">9/11/2024
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<p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">9/11/2024
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<p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">9/11/2024
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<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b><span><span style="font-style: normal">O.</span></span><span>
</span><span><span style="font-style: normal">What
words or phrases did you actually hear one of the candidates say?
(quote them)</span></span></b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Kamala:
"I have a plan"; World leaders are worried, Mr. President,
about your stability" Donald: "You say you have a plan,
why haven't you already done this, you have been in office";
"Immigrants are eating people's pets", "she won't do
that because with a 50-50 congress she won't have the votes"</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Build
on hope; bring us together</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">800,000
Polish migrants living in Pennsylvania </font></font>
</p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
images stood out for you? (describe what you actually saw)</b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Kamala
walking over and shaking Donald's hand; Donald's fierce attention
looking forward into the cameras; Kamala's facial exparessions and
looking at Donald when he spoke</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Donald's
glaring; Kamala's lifted eyebrows</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Kamala's
handshake. 81 million people fired you.</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b><span><span style="font-style: normal">R.</span></span><span>
</span><span><span style="font-style: normal">What
part of this debate was exciting or compelling for you?</span></span></b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Not
really anything. It seemed as though everyone was better behaved
than in other recent debates and I liked that. I was excited about
the question on climate change, but then my computer froze up and I
missed their responses</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Kamala's
vivid depictions of women who were denied medical help when
experiencing a miscarriage</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Each
time he took the bait and she was able to show her own capability.
When she said foreign leaders laugh at you. "You are a
disgrace. Putin and all the other dictators see how pliable you are
to compliments and favors. What you don't know is Putin would eat
you for lunch! </font></font>
</p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
part of this debate was frightening or depressing?</b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">On
the one hand, another Trump presidency is frightening and the degree
to which the conservative movement(s) in this country are taking
power in so many ways. On the other hand, a bit depressing thee
assumption that all a President has is policies to carry out with no
acknowledgement of the uncertainties and complexities of life. Also
depressing the time spent going back and forth on how well I/we did
and how poorly the other one did</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Donald's
story about Hatian migrants eating the dogs and cats of Ohioan
residents.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">When
Kamala did not answer the question.</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
part made you want to turn it off?</b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Not
anything, really</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Non
- I couldn't stop watching</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">When
Trump was allowed so much time.</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b><span><span style="font-style: normal">I.</span></span><span>
</span><span><span style="font-style: normal">What
is something you learned from this debate? About the candidates and
their intentions? About yourself?</span></span></b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
relied A LOT on the visual cues and voice tones and outrageous
statements much more than anything factual or concrete</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">We
are a divided nation largely caused by Trump's lies. Kamala is a
voice of hope and unity. I am opting, with my vote, for democracy,
the rule of law, and compassion for my neighbor.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Kamala
knows how to command a sitation with poise.</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
are you pondering now? </b></font></font></font>
</p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">how
to get over this mutua belief that we are one another's enemies</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Am
I doing enough to help, beyond voting and contributing?</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">How
can anyone believe and vote for Trump?</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
did you discover about your own values or perspective through this
debate?</b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
am betting on the more diverse "faces" of the US (and the
world) to move things forward, especially the tone of debates. also
it is difficult for me to firmly identify myself as "American"</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
love my country and its foundational pillars more than I realized. I
am grateful I grew up at a time (1950s) when that was just assumed.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
am uncomfortable with Trump's many lies. When they are laughable and
oulandish (eating pets or claiming to have won a lost election)</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b><span><span style="font-style: normal">D.</span></span><span>
</span><span><span style="font-style: normal">How
would you summarize how this debate affected your thinking?</span></span></b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
am wondering what it would take for the federal governement/state
and local to work more to get things done and less to rhetorical
reviews of their right ideology -- end the constant campaigning and
focus on the boring parts -- getting things done and making that
newsworthy even if not gripping and dramatic</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I
truly believe the moment has come for a Woman, and a woman of Color,
to become our next president.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Baiting
can set someone off guard.</font></font></p>
</li></ul>
<p><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><font size="4" style="font-size: 14pt"><b>What
further reflections would you like to share?</b></font></font></font></p>
<ul>
<li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">I'm
good</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">We
need to stop banning books and re-empower social studies in our
secondary school curricula, especially what we once knew as Civics.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Harris's
competence and joy is palpable and contagious!</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Thank
you. I will leave this conversation open for a week and then share
all our answers.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Thanks
for giving us this opportunity.</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="font-weight: normal"><font color="#434343"><font face="Arial, sans-serif">Thanks,
Jim!</font></font></p>
</li><li><p style="line-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 0in"></p>
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