<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">From a footnote on p.12 in Chapter 2 of Getting to the Bottom of ToP: “Chapter 2 in The Sickness Unto Death, written in 1849.” It also quotes two more precise quotes from Kierkegaard from pp 146 and 147 in the book in the bibliography. <div><br></div><div>In the bibliography: “Fear and Trembling and The Sickness Unto Death”, Princeton University Press, 1941</div><div><br></div><div>On pp 12 and 13 in Getting to the Bottom of ToP, Wayne also notes that ICA summarized the quote slightly as “The self is a relation, which in relating itself to itself, and willing itself to be itself, is grounded transparently in the power which posited it.” </div><div><br></div><div>The Second Edition of The Art of Focused Conversation, due to be published on September 10, also quotes the same source. (This book is available for pre-order at New Society Publishers and also Amazon. The royalties go to ICA Canada.)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr">From the mobile desk of<div>Jo Nelson <div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jul 9, 2024, at 6:55 PM, Ed Feldmanis via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Maybe, it is, the self is the self in which relating itself to itself and and willing itself to be itself, grounds itself in the power which deposits I think that's pretty close. Maybe somebody can update some of the wording.</p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 5:36 PM James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I keep remembering "The self is a relation; that relates itself to itself; and in willing to be that relation; grounds itself transparently in the power that posits it."<div><br></div><div>And I remember the diagram with the lines and boxes and curvy arrows.</div><div><br></div><div>Where did that come from (which book or paper?). What was SK pointing to? What were we pointing to?</div><div><br></div><div>I am afeared that I am misusing it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br id="m_-5505681324811006383lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jim Wiegel</span><br><div>
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