<html><head></head><body><div class="ydp862de46fyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Note from Karen below -- I missed it on October 8 </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I charted Soul Boom and saved the chapter on the pillars of a spiritual revolution. I did not like the character of Dwight, so was challenged about the author and his credibility. Loved the bits and descriptions of his religious upbringing. Also loved his list of pandemics -- and his contention that the main one we are facing has to do with mental illness (spiritual despair??) Was attracted that he titled chapter 4 "The Notorious G. O. D." but disappointed by his approach (also a recent book called "The Not-Yet God" which was trying to pull together the philosophical threads to create a contemporary context for talking about the reality we are finally up against in life -- AMAZING JARGON in the summaries I read. brought back old memories . . . </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Yes, would be fun . . .</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Your comment: "You KNOW where his ashes are!" reminded me of the Ronin: "You knew! You knew! And yet you still used that door!"</div><div class="ydp862de46fsignature"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><a href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/james-wiegel/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jim Wiegel </a> <br><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;" dir="ltr" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"> </p><div> <span><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;" class="ydp209e23c4MsoNormal"><span>The
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scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all
that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain
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On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 09:29:37 AM MST, James Wiegel <jfwiegel@gmail.com> wrote:
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<p class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052p1"><span class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052s1">“We are all time travelers journeying into the future. But let us make that future a place we want to visit. “ </span><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Stephen Hawking</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">Begin forwarded message:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052yqt24900" class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052yqt7522110165"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><b>From:</b> Karen Snyder <ksnyder@ica-usa.org><br clear="none"><b>Date:</b> October 8, 2023 at 8:28:57 AM MST<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> James Wiegel <jfwiegel@gmail.com><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> <b>Fwd: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Happy birthday, JWM!</b><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div><div id="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052yqt07309" class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052yqt7522110165"><div>You KNOW where his ashes are!<div><br clear="none"></div><div>By the way, I vaguely remember you mentioning hearing about Soul Boom. Did you ever read it? I find it very interesting - so much so, that after perusing the book from the library, I have ordered it. Would be fun to make lists like he has about what values to teach, etc. plus work on the new mythology.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Peace,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Karen</div><div><br clear="none" id="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div>
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<div><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br clear="none" class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">James Wiegel via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Happy birthday, JWM!</b><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">October 8, 2023 at 10:18:42 AM CDT<br clear="none"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Order Ecumenical Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>, Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, Order Ecumenical Community <oe@wedgeblade.net><br clear="none"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none"></span></div><br clear="none"><div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><span style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Is there a shrine or anything? Where are his ashes?</span><br clear="none" style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br clear="none" style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="font-size:13pt;">Jim Wiegel</span><br clear="none"><div><p class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052p1"><span class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052s1">“…the long work<br clear="none">of turning their lives<br clear="none">into a celebration<br clear="none">is not easy. Come </span><span style="font-size: 19pt;">and let us talk</span><span style="font-size: 19pt;">“. </span></p><p class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052p1"><span style="font-size: 19pt;">The Sunflowers. Mary Oliver</span></p></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 8, 2023, at 7:52 AM, John Patterson via OE <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: MicrosoftSansSerif; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir="ltr">Thank you Robertson. We are blessed by our history with Joe and so many others including yourself. Canadian thanksgiving blessings. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>John<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 8, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Robertson Work via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:14pt;" class="ydpeb697fefyiv1786226052elementToProof">Today, we celebrate the 112<span><sup>th</sup> birthday of our teacher Joe Mathews. And on the 16<span><sup>th</sup> of this month, we mark the day that he died at the age of sixty-six. Gratitude for his clarity, wisdom, and passion to serve the least, the last, and the lost. 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