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sailing. <span> </span>John Lennon</span></p></span><br></div><p></p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;"><a href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span></span></p></div></div></div>
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<span style="font-size:12pt;">Looking forward to your thoughts on this, Jim and others. </span><span style="font-family:UI sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">What I find wonderful about the OE’s writing on the Other
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<div dir="ltr">But it is all good. I REALLY LIKE the first paragraph and honestly, I am not sure if I ever read past that . . .</div>
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