<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpe7361ef2yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Does anyone recall (have notes on) the lecture introductions from RS-1? They were quick and insightful, and I don't find anything in our archives on them . . . </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">One intro, maybe on Saturday afternoon -- would have been an intro to the freedom lecture / section / holy spirit / life style was a series of little triangles . . . </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Everyone lives out of some sense of their final reality What am I upagainst in life? what is my situation?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">and they have "A word" that releases them -- gives me the capacity to live</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">and a life style that comes out of that</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Anyway, I think one of them was the final reality is bad, and the word was just survive, and the life style was the stoic</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I don't quite remember the other ones . . . and the one course I had on philosophy did not emphasize the stoics.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div class="ydpe7361ef2signature"><div style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><a href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jim Wiegel</a> <br><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;" dir="ltr" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"> </p><div> <span><p style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;" class="ydp209e23c4MsoNormal"><span>The
unknown is what is. And to be frightened of it is what sends everybody
scurrying around chasing dreams, illusions, wars, peace, love, hate, all
that. Unknown is what is. Accept that it's unknown, and it's plain
sailing. <span> </span>John Lennon</span></p></span><br></div><p></p><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white;">401 North Beverly Way,Tolleson, Arizona 85353</span><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">623-363-3277</span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue;">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</span></a></span><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:'Segoe UI', sans-serif;"></span></p><p style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;background:white;" class="ydpa512fec3MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:blue;"><a href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.partnersinparticipation.com</a></span></span></p></div></div></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>
</div><div id="ydp37cd0cabyahoo_quoted_3314233036" class="ydp37cd0cabyahoo_quoted">
<div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
<div>
On Thursday, January 20, 2022, 07:54:09 PM MST, Karenbueno via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id="ydp37cd0cabyiv9111563122"><div><div style="color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;">
<div> S<font size="2">toic: I'm fine. <br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: Are you telling the truth?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Well, even if I hurt, what can I do. I will just bear it.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: Have you tried what the doctor advised?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Oh, I probably will soon. Stop worrying about me. I'm fine.</font></div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><font size="2">Another day--</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: I don't see how we need to worry about climate change. It will destroy us and the rest of life on the planet soon.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: But shouldn't we do a few actions that might help.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Oh, we are too far gone. The oceans are rising, the ice is about gone. We might as well just enjoy the life we have.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: but what about our kids and grandkids and their kids?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Look. We are human. The planet it too far gone. We may as well just accept it.</font></div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><font size="2">Another day--</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Well, I think we have gone as far as we can to abolish racism in the United States.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: I think there is still a lot of suffering from racism. I think we should find some way to pay reparations.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: You pay for it. I have some other things I want to do with our money.</font></div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><font size="2">Another day--</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: Did you hear about how the Wisconsin government is giving back some of their land to the Indians?</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Oh for Pete Sake. That war is long over, and we are getting along fine.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Another day--</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Listen to those shovels! They are finishing my work!</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: No, honey, they are digging your grave.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Another day--</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: They say that faith is belief in things not seen.</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Ha. Sounds pretty magic to me!</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Me: But if you trust that the creative power of God is in charge, you can have hope that the future is open, and we can act!</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Stoic: Naptime now.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><font size="2"><br clear="none">
</font></div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
<div><font size="2">Karen Bueno</font><br clear="none">
</div>
<div> <br clear="none">
</div>
<div> <br clear="none">
</div>
<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><font size="2">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none">
From: Dharmalingam Vinasithamby via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none">
To: OE Listserve <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; Dialogue List <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br clear="none">
Cc: Dharmalingam Vinasithamby <dvinasithamby@yahoo.com><br clear="none">
Sent: Thu, Jan 20, 2022 5:27 pm<br clear="none">
Subject: [Dialogue] Stoicism<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</font><div id="ydp37cd0cabyiv9111563122yqt27906" class="ydp37cd0cabyiv9111563122yqt5406969833"><div id="ydp37cd0cabyiv9111563122">
<div>
<div style="font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class="ydp37cd0cabyiv9111563122yahoo-style-wrap">
<div dir="ltr">Dear colleagues,<br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
<div>
<div>I need help with an idea I’m trying to sort out. If you have the time and inclination, I would love to hear from you on the following: <br clear="none">
<br clear="none">
</div>
<div>Saying Yes to life and Stoicism. Stoicism seems to be understood as a relationship to life where you keep going on despite the odds. There is also an inuendo that this may not be humanly possible and that internal pressures will eventually cause the person to crash. What I want to know is, was that the Stoicism that Zeno founded or merely a degraded understanding? Why did we as an Order cast it in a negative light? What was our beef with it? Was it a reaction to the degraded form or were we looking at it in its original sense?</div>
<div><br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
regards</div>
<div dir="ltr">Dharma</div>
</div>
</div>
</div></div>
_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
Dialogue mailing list<br clear="none">
<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none">
<a shape="rect" href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none">
</div>
</div>
</div></div><div class="ydp37cd0cabyqt5406969833" id="ydp37cd0cabyqt42161">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Dialogue mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
</div>
</div></body></html>