<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Debra and Karen<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We are dancing in a space which is not clear and which all forms of interpretation are limiting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My interpretation of Karen's point in her talk about historical bias narrowing our view on or not allowing us to see data and if we do see it to bias the interpretation. Opening ourselves to the Aboriginal wisdom gives us access to another view, still human and therefore frail and not complete but coming from a more profound and comprehensive intention of honoring the whole not just humanistic perspective.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Adding more perspectives in futures scenarios helps broaden the evidence pool loving forward. Certain actions clearly will make a difference over time but as Elgin points out even if we make the changes it is about making the recovery more quickly or reducing th trough not about avoiding the pain.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As karen said it about joining or at least seeing the dots that might join later.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The reason I wanted to share back is the ICAI CD group is thinking about three aspects: Determining the new edge of CD; Expanding our CD community and access; Documenting our work, sharing practices and training others. I thought Karens point opened new pace on the first two. Elgins does as well. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">With respect, </div><div class="">Larry</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 11, 2021, at 06:58, Karen Newkirk <<a href="mailto:karennewkirk@gmail.com" class="">karennewkirk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you Debra, <div class="">Yes, it is very important to keep things in context. I agree completely with your analysis. Larry was paraphrasing from me paraphrasing. So, to get back to the context please see Hans Rosling’s TED Talks on global human development:</div><div class="">
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<!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class=""><a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen" class="">https://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen</a></span></b><b class=""><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is his first TED talk from 2006 and since then he has done at least two updates. What I quoted came from more than one of these. While his work is not on climate change it is inspirational and valuable especially in the context of comprehensive global community development. </p><div class="">The other source is FuturePods - Here is the link to many interviews with foresight practitioners concerned about human futures: <a href="https://www.futurepod.org/episodes" class="">https://www.futurepod.org/episodes</a> </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My interview is number 111. The knowledge (in the three dot points) to which I am referring is Indigenous Australian knowledge, (which I know to contain knowledge that is not common to Western knowledge. Other First Nations knowledge may also contain such knowledge.) Knowledge that connects humans collectively and individually with the environment. We know that some Western scientists also have some of this knowledge. I hope that this helps to join the dots.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you</div><div class="">Karen</div>
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 Oct 2021, at 3:30 am, Debra Harris <<a href="mailto:quantum1135@yahoo.com" class="">quantum1135@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--><div class="">
<div class=""><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;" class="">Larry,</span></div><div class=""><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;" class="">I’m trying to hold the tension between what you wrote and the conversations we had during the group study on Choosing Earth. I’m not sure how Elgin’s (and many other) solemn predictions on climate change fit into the below paradigm… </span></div><ol class="yiv3969288656MailOutline" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; word-wrap: break-word !important;"><li class="yiv3969288656" style="word-wrap: break-word !important;">Most things improve</li><li class="yiv3969288656" style="word-wrap: break-word !important;">Most people are in the middle</li><li class="yiv3969288656" style="word-wrap: break-word !important;">Countries need social development</li><li class="yiv3969288656" style="word-wrap: break-word !important;">The things we fear are unlikely to kill us</li></ol>#3 is absolutely correct. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yet concerning #1 & # 3: I fear the rapid progression of climate change and worry it will potentially kill much of humanity if we don’t make significant changes/mitigation/radical decisions & actions. In other words, change is happening, there is deep desire to improve our situation and yet it will take system wide global radical actions- and even those actions may be too late… </div><div class=""><br class="">On what helps makes a difference, you wrote:<br class=""><ul class="yiv3969288656"><li class="yiv3969288656">Knowledge</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Enthusiasm for possible human futures</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other</li></ul><div class="">Sincerely,</div><div class="">Debra Harris</div><div class="">Houston</div><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS" class="">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br class=""><br class=""><p class="yahoo-quoted-begin" style="font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">On Saturday, October 9, 2021, 8:38 PM, Lawrence Philbrook via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote class="iosymail"><div id="yiv3969288656" class=""><div class="">Thanks Jim and thanks Karen<div class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"></div><div class="yiv3969288656">I found Karens Podcast very good. The community development Community of Practice was talking yesterday about the edge of Community development work and I am wondering if your podcast illunimates the complexity of the question.</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><div class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"></div><div class="yiv3969288656">Can you say some more about Aggressive Inertia and how to perceive it and counter it?</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"></div><div class="yiv3969288656">Hans Rosling ted talks (serious possibilist) Seemingly impossible is possible we could have a good world</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><ol class="yiv3969288656MailOutline"><li class="yiv3969288656">Most things improve</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Most people are in the middle</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Countries need social development</li><li class="yiv3969288656">The things we fear are unlikely to kill us</li></ol></div><div class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"></div><div class="yiv3969288656">Avoiding preconceived ideas to learn from Indigenous peoples - 4 categories of knowledge = Literacy of the land - Clues</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><ul class="yiv3969288656"><li class="yiv3969288656">21 Stories from around Australia - Enduring narrative</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Acute observation - Observing a Moth</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Alert responsiveness - Marine Parade re-enactment</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Wholistic Attentiveness- Fire management but barrier to seeing through to the level of complexity because of pre-conceptions</li></ul></div><div class="yiv3969288656">3 human constructs that are critical</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><ul class="yiv3969288656"><li class="yiv3969288656">Knowledge</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Enthusiasm for possible human futures</li><li class="yiv3969288656">Ethical values creative tensions to deal with modern reality - respectful reality with the biosphere and each other</li></ul></div><div class="yiv3969288656">With respect, Larry</div><div class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"></div><div class="yiv3969288656"><blockquote type="cite" class="yiv3969288656"><div class="yiv3969288656"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-111-bending-history-karen-newkirk/id1446199958?i=1000537185353" class="yiv3969288656">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-111-bending-history-karen-newkirk/id1446199958?i=1000537185353</a></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class="yiv3969288656"><blockquote type="cite" class="yiv3969288656"><div class="yiv3969288656">On Oct 10, 2021, at 04:37, <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:dialogue-request@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:dialogue-request@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="yiv3969288656">dialogue-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a> wrote:</div><br class="yiv3969288656Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv3969288656">Send Dialogue mailing list submissions to<br class="yiv3969288656"><span class="yiv3969288656Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"> </span><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" ymailto="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="yiv3969288656">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class="yiv3969288656"><span class="yiv3969288656Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"> </span><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" class="">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br class="yiv3969288656">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class="yiv3969288656"><span class="yiv3969288656Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"> </span><a href="mailto:dialogue-request@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">dialogue-request@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class="yiv3969288656"><span class="yiv3969288656Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre;"> </span>dialogue-owner@lists.wedgeblade.net<br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="yiv3969288656">than "Re: Contents of Dialogue digest..."<br class="yiv3969288656">Today's Topics:<br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"> 1. Dr. Karen Newkirk. Bending History (James Wiegel)<br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class="yiv3969288656"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class="yiv3969288656"><b class="yiv3969288656">From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="yiv3969288656">James Wiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com><br class="yiv3969288656"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class="yiv3969288656"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class="yiv3969288656"><b class="yiv3969288656">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="yiv3969288656"><b class="yiv3969288656">[Dialogue] Dr. Karen Newkirk. Bending History</b><br class="yiv3969288656"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class="yiv3969288656"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class="yiv3969288656"><b class="yiv3969288656">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="yiv3969288656">October 9, 2021 at 21:14:31 GMT+8<br class="yiv3969288656"></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;" class="yiv3969288656"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class="yiv3969288656"><b class="yiv3969288656">To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="yiv3969288656">Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net>, OE Community <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net><br class="yiv3969288656"></span></div><br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"><div class="yiv3969288656"><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-111-bending-history-karen-newkirk/id1446199958?i=1000537185353" class="yiv3969288656">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-111-bending-history-karen-newkirk/id1446199958?i=1000537185353</a><br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656"><div dir="ltr" class="yiv3969288656"><span style="font-size:13pt;" class="yiv3969288656">Jim Wiegel</span><br class="yiv3969288656"><div class="yiv3969288656"><p class="yiv3969288656p1"><span class="yiv3969288656s1" style="background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">“A revolution is on the horizon: a wholesale transformation of the world economy and the way people live.” Fred Krupp</span></p></div></div></div><br class="yiv3969288656"><br class="yiv3969288656">_______________________________________________<br class="yiv3969288656">Dialogue mailing list<br class="yiv3969288656">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net<br class="yiv3969288656">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net<br class="yiv3969288656"></div></blockquote></div><br class="yiv3969288656"></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Dialogue mailing list<br class=""><a ymailto="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" href="mailto:Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" class="">Dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.wedgeblade.net/listinfo.cgi/dialogue-wedgeblade.net</a><br class=""><blockquote class=""></blockquote></blockquote></div>
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