<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Schubert Ogden and John Deschner team taught my systematic theology courses at Perkins. On the day JFK was shot I was in their class from noon until 1. The class dismissed, Ogden stepped out in the hallway and immediately returned to announce, “Ladies and gentlemen, the president has just been shot in downtown Dallas.” So it was he from whom I received that fateful news. After graduation I participated in some small group seminars that he had with clergy in the area. As I’m sure most everyone knows, Bultmann was his mentor and he was a great apologist for Bultmann’s attempt to demythologize scripture, for which Ogden received more than a little grief from some of the more conservative clergy. His arguments for his positions were extremely rational and he was perhaps the most detailed theologian I have encountered. I always had great admiration and appreciation for him. </div><div dir="ltr">Randy</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 12, 2019, at 2:52 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Did anyone in th colleague net study with him?<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">With Respect,<div>Jim Wiegel</div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Jun 12, 2019, at 9:29 AM, W. J. via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--><div class="yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div>Another theological giant has fallen.</div><div>Marshall</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.umnews.org/en/news/theologian-ogden-pushed-himself-and-his-students" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="enhancr_card_0677149225">Theologian Ogden pushed himself and his students | United Methodist News Service</a><br></div><div><br></div><div id="ydpfd90406denhancr_card_0677149225" class="ydpfd90406dyahoo-link-enhancr-card ydpfd90406dymail-preserve-class ydpfd90406dymail-preserve-style" style="max-width:400px;font-family:"Helvetica Neue", "Segoe UI", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" data-url="https://www.umnews.org/en/news/theologian-ogden-pushed-himself-and-his-students" data-type="YENHANCER" data-size="MEDIUM" contenteditable="false"><a href="https://www.umnews.org/en/news/theologian-ogden-pushed-himself-and-his-students" style="text-decoration:none !important;color:#000 !important" class="ydpfd90406dyahoo-enhancr-cardlink" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><table border="0" class="ydpfd90406dcard-wrapper ydpfd90406dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="max-width:400px"><tbody><tr><td width="400"><table border="0" class="ydpfd90406dcard ydpfd90406dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="max-width:400px;border-width:1px;border-style:solid;border-color:rgb(224, 228, 233);border-radius:2px"><tbody><tr><td class="ydpfd90406dcard-primary-image-cell" background="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/wsuNLkyEsjRQXDMJvkNSaQ--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://umc-prod-umnews.azureedge.net/-/media/umc-media/2019/06/11/16/19/2019-267-schubert-miles-ogden-obit-2019-preview.ashx?mw=1200&hash=293C41F51BAD26527C5E305C265FF7AB04220482.cf.jpg" bgcolor="#000000" valign="top" height="175" style="background-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-size: cover; position: relative; border-top-left-radius: 2px; border-top-right-radius: 2px; border-bottom-right-radius: 0px; border-bottom-left-radius: 0px; min-height: 175px;"><!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:396px;height:175px;position:absolute;top:0;left:0;"><v:fill type="frame" color="#000000" src="https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/wsuNLkyEsjRQXDMJvkNSaQ--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://umc-prod-umnews.azureedge.net/-/media/umc-media/2019/06/11/16/19/2019-267-schubert-miles-ogden-obit-2019-preview.ashx?mw=1200&hash=293C41F51BAD26527C5E305C265FF7AB04220482.cf.jpg"/></v:rect><![endif]--><table border="0" class="ydpfd90406dcard-overlay-container-table ydpfd90406dyahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="width:100%"><tbody><tr><td class="ydpfd90406dcard-overlay-cell" background="https://s.yimg.com/cv/ae/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV21/1/enhancr_gradient-400x175.png" bgcolor="transparent" valign="top" style="background-color: transparent; border-top-left-radius: 2px; border-top-right-radius: 2px; border-bottom-right-radius: 0px; border-bottom-left-radius: 0px; min-height: 175px;"><!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:396px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