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<div>Yes, the copy Marge handed to me at the time of Betty's celebration was in that same gray box! Marge was VERY proud of this artifact and very watchful to make sure it didn't disappear (into some colleague's briefcase!). </div><div>It was likely the only copy in the Archives, and to me it looked exactly like an original typescript. </div><div>That means that our dear Betty had not sent it through a copier and left the copier version in the files.</div><div>It also suggests that for some reason, Joe's dissertation is probably not in the JWM research collection in the basement of the library of Wesley Theological Seminary.</div><div>So I would suggest that the Archives honchos might contact the Wesley librarian to insure that this document is available in the collection.</div><div>Maybe some PhD student someday will write a dissertation on Mathews' dissertation and what happened to it at various times and places!</div><div>After writing this I read Nancy's and Beret's comments. So maybe some version of the Wesley dissertation is in the basement at Wesley.</div><div>There's been a huge faculty/staff turnover @ Wesley with retirements, etc. So there are very likely HUGE memory gaps, not to mention funding gaps, that I predict would result in ZERO archival work happening in their basement archives.</div><div>At least there would be some kind of historical record of the acquisition. But it would be interesting to call up the research librarian and see what he or she says.</div><div>Or maybe M. George Walters is up on this question.</div><div>Marshall </div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 5:07:04 AM EDT, Karen Snyder via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><div>There is a memory gap in Archive Collection history between when Marshall saw the copy of JWM’s dissertation at Betty Pesek’s Memorial and when it was scanned by Mark in April and links created by Wendell. There are likely others who have bits and pieces of the history. And there are 150 file cabinets in the basement Archives room that may have more information.<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Although I ‘found’ the transcript in a gray box tucked away on top of the file cabinets after many cabinets had been moved and many files filed this past year, I don’t have a history to go with the finding. I am simply pleased that it will soon be accessible to those interested on the Archives Website.<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Peace, Karen</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><div><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><blockquote class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260" type="cite"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260yqt9296416931" id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260yqt90818"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">On May 13, 2019, at 8:51 PM, W. J. via Dialogue <<a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp335d0edfyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"></div>
<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">I actually saw and touched (!) the typescript copy Marge had in the Archives at the time of Betty Pesek's memorial service, so I can vouch for the fact that there were zero burn marks on it. And no hint of smoke.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">As far as I could tell, that copy was not fake either. Maybe we could dust it for Joe's fingerprints. Or, far more likely, Lyn's. </div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">And there was no indication that what we have now was just a preliminary draft.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">As some of us know, there WAS a fire in the Carriage House at the original location of the Evanston Institute of Ecumenical Studies. And some stuff in storage got burned. Apparently not this copy.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">But maybe the story about being lost in a fire dates back to Joe's Austin days. Or before that in Dallas or Rochester. I wouldn't put it past him to wink and say, in effect, 'That's dead history.'</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Or possibly Joe and Lyn decided NOT to submit this revised/final draft after his dissertation committee rejected his earlier version. </div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">That's SO like him to say, 'I'm not gonna jump through that hoop again!' and risk another rejection. He WAS stubborn that way. And very proud of his research and writing and masterful teaching.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">So I would say, 'Good on ya, Joe. Got more important fish to fry!'</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">I'm curious about what inspired the Archives team to 'resurrect' it in digital form.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Comments?</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Marshall</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"></div>
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On Monday, May 13, 2019, 8:51:56 PM EDT, Mari Crocker via Dialogue <<a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:
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<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260" id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260">Do we have any insight re: HRN’s rejection of JWM’s dissertation? Were there any notes from his dissertation committee? One prevailing story over many early years was that the text had been accidentally burned. Could you share how you accessed this copy?<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">Many thanks, </div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">Dr. Marilyn R. Crocker<br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><blockquote class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" type="cite"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505yqt2915327177" id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505yqt70623"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">On May 2, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Wendell Refior via Dialogue <<a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-iv ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-gt ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-gE" style="padding:20px 0px 0px;font-size:12.8px;font-family:Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><span class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Colleagues -</span></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-" style="font-family:Roboto, RobotoDraft, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:inherit;"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-gt ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-ii ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-adO" id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-:2tb" style="font-size:12.8px;direction:ltr;margin:8px 0px 0px;padding:0px;"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-aXjCH ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-a3s" id="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505gmail-:2uy" style="font-stretch:normal;font-size:small;line-height:1.5;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">We now have a digital copy of JWM's Dissertation on Wesley.</div>A Study of John Wesley, turned in and rejected by Niebuhr and never rewritten or approved.</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">Wendell Refior</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505">for the ICA Global Archives</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr">Chapter 1: The Human Constitution</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" href="https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21219.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21219.pdf</a> <br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr">Chapter 2: The Life of Love</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" href="https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21220.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21220.pdf</a><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr">Chapter 3: The Knowledge of Faith</div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" href="https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21221.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://wedgeblade.net/files/archives_assets/21221.pdf</a><br clear="none" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"></div><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr">Conclusion: Concluding Remarks<br clear="all" class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><div 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class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" dir="ltr">Thanks until later. "To believe what is true for you in your private heart is true for <everyone> -- that is genius." - Emerson in "Self-Reliance"<div class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505"><font class="ydp9278333dyiv9809528260ydp80a9f056yiv4213636505" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Wendell</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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