<div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>OK, YES, Gordon Harper gave a PDF copy to Terry Bergdahl who shared the copy with me for the Archives, though we have no record of a prior electronic copy. So Thanks Terry. Thanks everyone for the input. Terry also gave to Jo Nelson the full citation he used for his ICA Handbook which Terry published as an ICA document to be shared to explain who we are and what we do and did.<div><br></div><div>The title to the paper was as you say:</div><div><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(36,36,36)">THE PEOPLE OF THE QUESTION</span></div><div><br></div><div>The precise quote was:<font color="#242424" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:15.3333px"><br></span></font></div><div>"what it means to be man"<br></div><div><br></div><div>An earlier remark goes:<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(36,36,36)"><br></span></div><div>... "what it means to be "man" instead of animal"</div><div><br></div><div>Wendell<font color="#242424" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:15.3333px"> <br></span></font><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:12 PM, W. J. via Dialogue <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:24px"><div id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503852024039_10176">According to Martin Gilbraith, "ICA’s 1986 global conference in Spain was addressed by (from memory)
Joep van Ar<font color="#cd232c"><b>e</b></font>ndonk of UNFPA, and he famously (in ICA circles anyway)
described ICA as “the People of the Question, because you have the
courage to say ‘we don’t know”…"</div><div dir="ltr" id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503852024039_10310">Time to call in the Archives team. The quote is probably in the files!<br></div><div id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503852024039_10181">Marshall<br></div><div id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1503852024039_10028"><span></span></div> <div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yahoo_quoted" style="display:block"> <div style="font-family:"times new roman","new york",times,serif;font-size:24px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 5:38 PM, Sunny Walker via Dialogue <<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a><wbr>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312y_msg_container"><div id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404"><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404WordSection1"><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Joep Van Arendonk – UNFPA. I remember him speaking at Kemper (maybe – or perhaps we just studied a paper of his?)</div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404yqt8136769993" id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404yqt99906"><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Dialogue [mailto:<a href="mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue-bounces@<wbr>lists.wedgeblade.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jo Nelson via Dialogue<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 26, 2017 2:39 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> ICA Dialogue List <<a href="mailto:dialogue@wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@wedgeblade.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> [Dialogue] van Arendonk quote</div></div></div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Hi, all,</div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">The good news is that we are in the last week (I hope) of editing Getting to the Bottom of ToP before we send it to the publisher. The intention is to have it published by October 20, when ICA Canada has its annual gala. </div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">I have found one place in the book where Wayne quotes:</div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">"Dr. van Arandonk’s question, “What is it to be human?"<span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Do any of you have any more information on this? I remember the question, but I don’t even remember Dr. van Arendonk’s first name, never mind a time or a place when he asked it. </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Can anybody help? Whatever you can help with in the next few days would be invaluable.</div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Take care,</div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal">Jo</div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div></div></div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404yqt8136769993" id="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404yqt50441"><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="gmail-m_-8509411684411138312yiv4881810404MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt">--<br clear="none">Jo Nelson, CPF, CTF <jnelson@ica-<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://associates.ca/" target="_blank">associates.ca</a>><br clear="none">Certified Professional Facilitator and ICA Certified ToP™ Facilitator<br clear="none">ICA Associates, Inc. <br clear="none">401 Richmond Street West, Suite #405, Toronto, Canada. 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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks until later. "To believe what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men -- that is genius." - Emerson in "Self-Reliance"<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Wendell</font></div></div></div></div></div>
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