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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Thank you, George, for helping us know about Jim Rigby. Would that religious gatherings all over followed his church’s lead … and that of HDP and NRM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span>
</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">Dialogue <dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net> on behalf of George Holcombe via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>George Holcombe <geowanda1@me.com>, Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 10:14 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>ICA/OE List Serves <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>, ICA/OE List Serves <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Easter Reflections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One of my hopes was that we would continue to push to the bottom HDP in every poor village around the world and the NRM into all the religious forms. I noticed in John Cock’s Journey Reflections today reference to Jim Rigby. He’s the
Presbyterian minister in our neighborhood who I referenced his Easter service in an earlier post. He and his church, St. Andrews, is an amazing example of the new forms and by the way graduated from the same seminary as Joe Slicker. Jim is both mystic and
activist. I don’t know of an local issue he doesn’t protest or testify for. He lives in the public. HIs church, a sanctuary one, houses and supports an immigrant family threatened with deportation, they feed the local homeless, has an organic garden done
by members, a vital eco committee that pushes those issues far and wide, pushes the LBGTQI interests and has gays on his staff. They flew a huge banner on their lawn supporting Muslims and have muslims visitors frequently. St. Andrews is the only church I
know that has the leading Atheist in Austin as a member. The pews on Sunday morning are filled with activists and his sermons break through the old Western Christian myths to a universal faith in action. He holds a conversation group on Tuesdays that allows
participants to tie their experience to the deeps. It is a dynamic congregation. Jim has been regularly put on trial by his denomination to be defrocked, but less regularly now.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, he is a former rock musician, plays excellent guitar and each Sunday he and members conducts a puppet show for the kids during service explaining matters of faith they can participate in and they do. All this in a relatively small
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="color:black">George Holcombe<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Len Hockley via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Does everyone know the story of how we got preludes and postludes in our services? It goes something like:<br>
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In the reformation the Calvinists and others decided that there would be no music in the service but that was the last straw for many and so added music before and after.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Worship music is such an interesting part of worship. “What Child is This” was set to the music for “Greensleeves,” which was a song about a prostitute. For many
years churches refused to allow organ music, considering it profane. Now organ music is standard, but drums are still controversial in some congregations. In my church, we have a very traditional Rite I Eucharist at 8 am, a blended (mostly traditional) Service
at 9 am, and a contemporary Service at 11 am. The 8 am Service is small (about 100 people); the 9 am and 11 am each draw about 1,000 people on a normal Sunday. On Christmas and Easter we add a Service to accommodate the “Chreasters” who only come on those
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">I must admit that unconventional worship music was one of the powerful draws for me in the Spirit Movement—my heart leapt and danced and I was entranced. Then somewhere
along the way, in mainstream worship Services, I began to feel that contemporary “Praise Music” was sort of “over the top” and emotionally manipulative, or, as a Baptist friend put it, “spirit candy.” I had to be wooed back to it over time (<i>2 Samuel</i><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>helped
as I realized that David himself was “over the top” in worship and dancing). Now one of my favorite contemporary hymns is by the group Hillsong: “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcnfT4arZtI"><span style="color:purple">I Surrender</span></a>” (it lifts
my heart to renewed commitment every time I hear it).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">In terms of musical grandeur that seems inconsistent with the NT lifestyle and “more appropriate to royalty than to us,” as you put it, I don’t really have any
difficulty with that—it seems only natural that we would offer the best of the artistry available to us for worship, the best of our creativity for the Creator.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Papyrus">And the Lord shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought . Isaiah 58:11</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Protect against email address harvesting:<br>
Use "BCC" when sending to multiple addresses;<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">delete senders’ E-Mail addresses when forwarding.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">NOTE: I won’t be offended if you ask me to remove you from my emails.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">OE
[<a href="mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style="color:purple">mailto:oe-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Epps via OE<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, April 17, 2017 5:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Thomas Morrison<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:2tjmorrison@gmail.com"><span style="color:purple"><2tjmorrison@gmail.com></span></a>; Order Ecumenical Community<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net"><span style="color:purple"><oe@lists.wedgeblade.net></span></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Oe List ...] Easter Reflections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">I’ve never heard anything like it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">The ordinary mode of beginning the Sunday worship service at Montview Presbyterian Church is the sound of chimes after which the congregation is invited to quietly make the transition from getting there to being
there. This Sunday, being Easter, the sanctuary was overflowing with people enthusiastically greeting each other with churchy cordiality and requests from the front to move closer together in the pews to accommodate more people. I was sitting quietly waiting
for the chimes, hoping to be able to hear them over the din, and looking forward to a few moments of silence to absorb the beauty of the surroundings.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Suddenly from the choir loft came a deafening crash of cymbals followed by a brass and organ fanfare that filled the gothic architecture with ear-splitting wonder that lasted a full 5 minutes. After the final grand
chord, the congregation was speechless. The impact was powerful and profound, setting the tone for something grand about to happen. For me, if nothing else occurred during the service, the Easter wonder had happened.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">The piece was Grand Choeur Dialogue by Eugene Gigout; you can find it at:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufxt80iVA0"><span style="color:purple">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rufxt80iVA0</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">But that was only the first musical treat. The brass and organ and choir continued their gift of awe-producing sounds during the hymns, anthem, and offertory anthem.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtIRp3Vglw"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:purple">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtIRp3Vglw</span></a><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#006621"> </span></span>was
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">By the time we left, I was done in, having experienced something of a resurrection.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Since then,<span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial"> </span></span>I’ve been wrestling with the thought that such grandeur was not at all like the lifestyle portrayed
in the New Testament. Though it clearly portrays the significance of the Easter event for Christians, the music and setting seemed more appropriate to royalty than to us. Recent Public TV shows featuring Henry VIII picture a setting in which this type of music
would have been right at home. Maybe the point is that awe happens in the midst of the ordinary as surprises sometime break through that are not of our doing. If, as I have contended elsewhere, surprises are where we are confronted by Mystery, that certainly
happened at the Denver Montview Presbyterian Church (a former Galaxy church once co-pastored by Ken Barley) on Easter Sunday, 2017.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Again, I choose to pay attention to the experiences or not, depending on how important it is to the client (or me--grin).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white">Thank you for the reflections and the reminiscences. I must admit I am wrestling some this week and still at Easter morn. We get netflix dvds sent to us and last night, as we paused from getting ready for the
potluck we are hosting, we watched the dvd we got in the mail. Martin Scorceses SILENCE, about Jesuit priests on mission in Japan in the 1600's. Lots of persecutions, apostasy as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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grandson who has decided to be baptized today. Have to stop here and go hide easter eggs . . .<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 15, 2017, at 19:52, Mary Kurian DSouza via OE <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Chorus on the baby grand. Breakfast included a huge slab of salmon. Oh my goodness -- If life had caused you to need some patching up, the best prescription would be 4 years in the OKC RH with Bill & Marianna. Thank you for those experiences, Marianna!<br>
All the best,<br>
Nancy Trask<br>
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<VIKING copy.jpeg></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"MS Mincho"">❤</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt"> </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Frank</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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changed. We find it difficult even to grasp what it meant for those who first<br>
told it, much less for us. Yet we are compelled to try by Paul’s admonition,<br>
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risen one takes pains to force people to touch his wounds and so dispel the<br>
notion of an ectoplasmic appearance. Whatever the implications, they are<br>
physical, this worldly. The second factor is that stories of dying and rising<br>
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I have taught for 15 years were cancelled; I was “raised” when the University<br>
called on me for 3 new classes. The slow and painful death of a dear aunt was<br>
followed by a celebration honoring her life that brought back the wonder of her<br>
artistry and love. These may seem trivial examples but dramatize the dynamics<br>
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hopes and dreams died with the November election. The horrors and complexity of<br>
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death to life as we have known it. What resurrection will look like remains to<br>
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but are faint heralds of a resurrected life. Numerous conferences aimed at<br>
achieving some sort of resolution of Middle East conflicts so far remain<br>
fruitless. As the story goes, it’s God who does the raising, not us. And when<br>
it occurs, it’s far beyond our expectations. As I have said elsewhere, “Humankind has unimaginable<br>
capacities to screw things up; yet Mystery generates unaccountable wonders out<br>
of our messes.” (</span><em><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Theology of Surprise</span></u></b></em><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">,<br>
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