<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thank for re-posting - they were our reading/conversation at dinner today.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Ellen Rebstock<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 12:19 PM, James Wiegel via Dialogue <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light,Helvetica Neue Light,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr"><span>truth in re-posting. The two poems I sent around came to me on Facebook this morning. From Elizabeth Landers Engleman and Carol Poole. So nice to have friends . . .</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div class="m_3837121582058742704signature" id="m_3837121582058742704yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1485713403922_9129"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=123" target="_blank">Jim Wiegel</a> <br><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,'Lucida Grande',sans-serif;line-height:18.3999996185303px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">“If you want an adventure . . . what a time to be alive!”. 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These poems add to my armor as I pray for courage. I will share them with my local groups.<div>Nancy Trask<br clear="none"><div><b style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br clear="none"></b></div><div><b style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br clear="none"></b></div><div><b style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">From: </b><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt">"James Wiegel via OE" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>></span><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><b>To: </b>"Colleague Dialogue" <<a href="mailto:dialogue@wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@wedgeblade.net</a>>, "Order Ecumenical Community" <<a href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br clear="none"><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:05:34 AM<br clear="none"><b>Subject: </b>[Oe List ...] Some poems<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593yqt2934093611" id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593yqt41197"><div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">"TWO POEMS FROM THIS MORNING</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">A Ritual to Read to Each Other" </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">by William Stafford</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">If you don't know the kind of person I am </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and I don't know the kind of person you are </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">a pattern that others made may prevail in the</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> world </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and following the wrong god home we may miss</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> our star.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">For there is many a small betrayal in the mind, </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">a shrug that lets the fragile sequence break </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">sending with shouts the horrible errors of</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> childhood </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">storming out to play through the broken dike.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">And as elephants parade holding each</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> elephant's tail, </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">but if one wanders the circus won't find the</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> park, </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">I call it cruel and maybe the root of all cruelty </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">to know what occurs but not recognize the fact.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">And so I appeal to a voice, to something</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> shadowy, </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">a remote important region in all who talk: </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">though we could fool each other, we should</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> consider—</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">lest the parade of our mutual life get lost in the</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">dark.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">For it is important that awake people be awake,</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">or a breaking line may discourage them back to</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> sleep; </div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">the signals we give — yes or no, or maybe —</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">should be clear: the darkness around us is deep.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Deeply grateful to Helen Gerhardt for this: ............................ I know, I know</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">If you could go back you</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">would walk with Jesus</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">You would march with King</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Maybe assassinate Hitler</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">At least hide Jews in your basement</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">It would all be clear to you</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">But people then, just like you</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">were baffled, had bills</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">to pay and children they didn’t</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">understand and they too</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">were so desperate for normalcy</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">they made anything normal</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Even turning everything inside out</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Even killing, and killing, and it’s easy</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">for turning the other cheek</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">to be looking the other way, for walking</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">to be talking, and they hid</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">in their houses</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and watched it on television, when they had television,</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and wrung their hands</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">or didn’t, and your hands</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">are just like theirs. Lined, permeable,</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">small, and you</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">would follow Caesar, and quote McCarthy, and Hoover, and you would want</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">to make Germany great again</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Because you are afraid, and your</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">parents are sick, and your</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">job pays s@$t and where’s your</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">dignity? Just a little dignity and those kids sitting down in the highway,</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and chaining themselves to</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">buildings, what’s their f@*#king</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"> problem? And that kid</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">That’s King. And this is Selma. And Berlin. And Jerusalem. And now</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">is when they need you to be brave.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Now</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">is when we need you to go back</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and forget everything you know</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and give up the things you’re chained to</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">and make it look so easy in your</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">grandkids’ history books (they should still have them, kinehora)</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">Now</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">is when it will all be clear to them.</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature">~Danny Bryck</div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><div id="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593AppleMailSignature"><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div>Jim Wiegel</div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt">401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353</a></div><div><font color="#000000">Tel.</font><span style="font-size:13pt"> </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt">011-623-936-8671</a><span style="font-size:13pt"> </span><span style="font-size:13pt">or</span><span style="font-size:13pt"> </span><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" style="font-size:13pt">011-<wbr>623-363-3277</a></div><div class="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:marilyn.oyler@gmail.com" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</font></a></div><div class="m_3837121582058742704yiv6530742593MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">www.partnersinparticipation.<wbr>com</font></a></div><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div>"<span style="font-size:13pt">We are no longer living in an era of change. 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