<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;color:black;"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Thank you profoundly, Ellie. Very inspiring.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black;">Jann McGuire<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Ellie Stock via Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>To: jfwiegel <jfwiegel@yahoo.com>; oe <oe@lists.wedgeblade.net>; zbarley <zbarley@earthlink.net>; dialogue <dialogue@wedgeblade.net><br>Sent: Tue, Oct 4, 2016 2:13 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] [Oe List ...] Fwd: Re: THE DECLARATION OF THE SPIRIT MOVEMENT<br><br></div>
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<div>Teilhard still speaks to a broad audience. A documentary is currently being produced about his life and work and continuing influence (see below). It will be shown on PBS in 2017, if not before.</div>
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<div>Continue reading “<b>Teilhard Documentary</b> Leaps Forward” » <b>Teilhard Project</b> to film in <b>Teilhard</b>’s birthplace. Posted on July 7, 2016 by frostffp.</div>
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<div>Many congregations are using resources, built on the foundation of his work, that are weaving together the cosmic perspective, scientific realities and theological grounding that probably go beyond Spong. Groups come alive when they experience this--sometimes a church group, sometimes other groups, once in a while a congregation. </div>
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<div>In many respects, "renewal" is happening in churches that have strong conscious leadership that is shepherding congregations into their local communities and larger world (like the LCX). There are other groups which are the church dynamic, operating from a transparent WORD, that are bringing resurgence in other ways.</div>
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<div>Carleton and I were part of the Rochester LCX for 6 years until we went into the Order. When we returned to the local church as pastors, we didn't pull out the LCX Manual, but it was transparently and intentionally present as were the dynamics of contextual re-education, structural reformulation and spiritual re-motivation. Post-"retirement", we continue to be part of a congregation (not as pastors), that seeks to be on the edge re partnering with others to serve the larger world so that the Earth Community and all the diversity and complexity that inhabit it, might thrive cooperatively and sustainably.</div>
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Date: 2016/10/03 12:41 PM (GMT-07:00) <br>
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<div>Yes, I suspect we are all still at it - according to age, ability, and conditions. And such work must go on, even when it is ephemeral.</div>
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<div>But I'm concerned about Spong's challenge. He would yet attempt to renew the church. We began the work in the Order of imagining - and practicing - a wholly new liturgy. Is that where to begin? This is not exciting or immediately rewarding work - if ever - and it is not transformational in the first instance. I do not know who or what group is able to respond. Perhaps the Order is too vested in the community work to now turn back to the church. But I can't see that any such work can be sustained without the Word in some form.</div>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> James Wiegel <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>> <br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, October 3, 2016 6:29 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Oe List ...] THE DECLARATION OF THE SPIRIT MOVEMENT<br>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_23048">We were certainly aware, first as priors in Cleveland, then as Galaxy pastors in Denver, that the church renewal plan wasn't working. </div>
<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475506541630_23194">And with Spong it's no sure thing, despite the ages of existence, that the church wants, realizes the urgency of, renewal today. Yet I have seen the community renewal projects I have worked on all run their course and fade away. The Order had the internal strength and depth of belief to create the renewed dynamic in society that was once called church. I know of no other entity who can do it.</div>
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<br clear="none"><br clear="none">-------- Original message --------<br clear="none">From: James Wiegel <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</a>> <br clear="none">Date: 2016/10/02 9:40 PM (GMT-07:00) <br clear="none">To: zbarley <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:zbarley@earthlink.net">zbarley@earthlink.net</a>>, Order Ecumenical Community <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:oe@lists.wedgeblade.net">oe@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br clear="none">Subject: Re: [Oe List ...] THE DECLARATION OF THE SPIRIT MOVEMENT <br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680" dir="ltr">The Fifth City Project and, later human development projects and town meetings had a lot more visceral excitement for us than the slow work of congregational renewal. This might have been more particularly true for us younger, non clergy folks who came right after you all . . .</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">The Local Church Experiment with Galaxies and all did not produce exciting enough results to be sustained, and we never got sufficiently strong and widespread support from the denominational heirarchies to keep it going. It may well also have been the case that the "risks" that the Galaxy leadership and clergy families in the order and movement sort of derailed their career prospects in Ecclesiastical circles.</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">God chose fundamentalism and the charismatic approach over existential theology. I was struck, travelling cross country several years ago, on 2 lane highways, that it seems as though only the conservative churches have had heart and passion to root themselves in many local places. Music and broadcast christianity as well.</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680">With our focus on "globality", staying within the framework of Historical Christianity became increasingly relative as we engaged in countries not dominantly Christian</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14680" dir="ltr">In looking at old documents, like the Declaration of the Spirit Movement, I can see one could say that the primary concern was to address the "cultural revolution of the 20th century", ("renewal of the church FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD")</div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14681">Even the contextual documents on the local church describe it as an anthropological phenomenon and not a Christian reality </div>
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<div id="aolmail_yiv5222209950yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1475463055194_14681">From a practical (and economic) perspective, at some point, participation in RS-1 peaked and we needed something else to keep the "movement" moving. While we talked of ourselves as an "Order" -- Religious Order, Historical Order, Global Order, seems we depended a lot on keeping momentum going. Sustainability and slowness were less important than Expenditure and transformation.</div>
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