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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Microsoft Sans Serif"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Microsoft Sans Serif"'>If I get an e-mail
that I cannot be sure of, I cut/paste the address of the sender and put it into
a new e-mail, asking the sender if they sent it. It will go nowhere if it isn’t
legit. I did this with the stuff from UPS, the IRS and people whose names I know,
especially if there is no personal message from the sender that indicates the
e-mail is legit. I NEVER use an address link that is the <u>only</u> thing in
the e-mail message section. Almost always a clear indication of something to
be leery of.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=6 face=BrushScrD><span style='font-size:22.0pt;
font-family:BrushScrD;font-weight:bold'>Del<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Del Hunter Morrill</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>3217 North Mason Avenue</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Tacoma WA 98407-5419</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>H: (253) 752-1506; W:
(253) 383-5757</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;font-style:italic'><a href="mailto:delhmor@wamail.net"><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'>delhmor@wamail.net</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><i><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-style:italic'>Web
site: www. hypnocenter.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>The cave you fear
to enter holds the treasure you seek.</span></font></i></b><b><i><font size=4><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> </span></font></i></b><i><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-style:italic'>(Joseph Campbell)<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></i></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Janice Ulangca<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 15, 2013 3:25
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Colleague Dialogue<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dialogue] "Safe
emailing" off topic</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hurray for the Pope! Sometimes a firm hand is a
relief. Helpful realism & alternative way to share. Thanks, Tim.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:Arial'>Janice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:tim@tswegner.net" title="tim@tswegner.net">Timothy Wegner</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net"
title="dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">Colleague Dialogue</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, May 14,
2013 11:10 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [Dialogue]
"Safe emailing" off topic<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In my self-appointed role of benevolent dictator (who has
actual power over the list, heh heh!), I would like to mildly suggest that the
current discussion of safe email practice, while initially useful, is
off topic going forward. My reasons are: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>1. It's a huge topic, and while everyone here should be interested, if
we gave the topic of email safety the thoroughness it deserved, we'd
be flooded with that subject forever, and the purpose of the list would be
thwarted.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2. Even though most of the suggestions in this thread have been good,
let's face it, while some of us know more than others, nobody here is an expert
on computer security. Even though none of us would attempt brain surgery
(except those of us who are brain surgeons), it seems like most of us
become security experts at the drop of of hat, and pass on all kinds of
security information that might or might not be accurate.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The one exception to this "mild suggestion" is that
occasionally when dangerous messages actually appear on the list itself, some
brief instructions or suggestions might need to be posted to mitigate risk. In
such cases brevity is appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What I suggest is this. I will create a topic at <a
href="http://wiki.wedgeblade.net">wiki.wedgeblade.net</a> on email safety.
Anybody with an account (who can overcome the existential dread of posting on a
wiki) can add material to their heart's content. I will start it with some of
the messages that were posted here, and let you know when I do. A wiki is
better than email for this purpose because it can be edited in case any errors
creep in. (I will not ask anyone's permission to repost their messages on email
security, but will happily take them down if asked.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I cannot fail to add the following (highly off topic) comment (since
hypocrisy is the style of the day in our country), that hotmail was earlier
maligned by one of my esteemed colleagues. This prejudice had a basis in fact
once but is wrong now. Microsoft has totally redone it's email and hotmail
(a.k.a <a href="http://outlook.com">outlook.com</a>) now rivals Google'd
gmail(which I use and like - <a href="http://tswegner.net">tswegner.net</a> is
hosted at Google). Hotmail is a very reasonable full-featured email host
now. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Angry (or not) rejoinders to this haughty pontification welcome
to me personally, off the list of course!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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