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dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net
[mailto:dialogue-bounces@lists.wedgeblade.net] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bud Tillinghast<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 24, 2012
2:15 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net
Dialogue; oe@lists.wedgeblade.net Community<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Dialogue] Thanks, George</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#323333'>Thanks, George, for calling attention to my response to Bishop
Coyner. Indeed it does change the dynamic to have a whole Jurisdiction stand
against the UMC's exclusionary policy. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Lucida Grande"><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande";
color:#323333'>Would you want to hazzard a guess as to where the Niebuhr quote
came from? I'm continually grateful for the influence of the Ecumenical
Institute.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Our colleague, Bud
Tillinghast, a UMC clergy, (he's on this list serve) responds to a Bishop's attack
on the Western Jurisdiction of the UMC for contesting the latest General
Conference decision to continue their prejudice against Gays and Lesbians.
For those not up to speed on this - the United Methodist Church's
continued policies against Homosexuality is being challenged. Several
churches around the country have for some time declined to follow the
denomination's line by being known as Reconciling congregations. Recently
a retired Bishop has questioned the church's position. There have been demonstrations
at several General Conferences and efforts to turn the position around
including letter signings and efforts to get Annual conferences to take a
stand, which a few have. This is the first time a whole Jurisdiction has
made a statement, and a powerful defense of it by Bud. It was published
in an official publication of the church. I hope you take time to read it.</span></span></font></span>
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14900 Yellowleaf Tr.<br>
Austin, TX 78728<br>
Mobile 512/252-2756<br>
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not your Hope—you do not have anything to do with it. It just
appeareth. It comes as a stranger, as an alien—it just appeareth! You
do not even know why you hope. How in the world could you hope when
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