<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">The sensitive and responsive part?<br><br>Jim Wiegel<br>
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See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 7/1/12, R Williams <i><rcwmbw@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: R Williams <rcwmbw@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .<br>To: "Colleague Dialogue" <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><br>Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 10:26 AM<br><br><div id="yiv433252510"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div><span>If it had to be brief enough to put on a T shirt, how about ...on the backs of "those who dare to live the future now." (Margaret Wheatley) or maybe Buber's those who are "bringing to reality the emerging future." These kind of hold the perspective of the wedgeblade, no longer/not yet,
etc.</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."<br>-Martin Buber (adapted)<br></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <div style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204,
204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;" class="yiv433252510hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:48 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .<br> </font> </div>
<div id="yiv433252510"><div>Good push Randy.<div><br></div><div>Here's a try. "....on the backs of those who have a stance of being intentional, futuric and comprehensive, live out of the word of possibility, (affirmation of all things) and stand self-conciously before the final Mystery of Life." Now that might be too narrow and point to the Ordering dynamic within the religious, so maybe ".....on the backs of those who live on behalf of all."</div><div><br></div><div>Or, perhaps, as Hess calls them, "The League", or "The Invisible College" and direct people to those sources for more clarity.</div><div><br></div><div>And your substitution?</div><div><br></div><div>Jack</div><div><div><div>On Jul 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, R Williams wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:rgb(255, 255,
255);"><div><span>Jack,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Since the word "religious" has become somewhat stilted today, what word would you use in its place in your question without changing what you're pointing to?</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Randy</span></div><div></div><div> </div><div>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires." -Martin Buber (adapted)<br></div> <div style="font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <div style="margin:5px 0px;padding:0px;border:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);height:0px;line-height:0;font-size:0px;" class="yiv433252510hr"></div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jack Gilles <<a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:icabombay@igc.org" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=icabombay@igc.org">icabombay@igc.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Colleague Dialogue <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:20 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .<br> </font> </div>
<div id="yiv433252510"><div>Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.<div><br></div><div>Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... <b>"Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"</b></div><div><br></div><div>Jack</div><div><div><div>On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-stretch:inherit;" valign="top"><font size="4">Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:<br><br></font><font face="Arial" size="4">Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our
calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve<br>What are some of the
important partnerships the future needs?</font><font size="4"> Jan<br> "How do I
get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B<br></font><font id="yiv433252510role_document" color="#000000" face="Arial" size="4"><font size="4"><font size="4">"How are we to live together and
preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen<br><br> any others?</font><br><br></font></font>Jim Wiegel<br>
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See short video http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55 and website for further details.<br><br>--- On <b>Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:aulangca@stny.rr.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=aulangca@stny.rr.com">aulangca@stny.rr.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb(16, 16, 255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;"><br>From: Janice Ulangca <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:aulangca@stny.rr.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=aulangca@stny.rr.com">aulangca@stny.rr.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] Ways to Find Your Calling<br>To: "Colleague Dialogue" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>><br>Date: Sunday, July 1, 2012, 1:04 AM<br><br><div id="yiv433252510">
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<div><font face="Arial">Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe
myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our
"calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health,
economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas,
communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing
signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my
situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most
restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always
changing, at least somewhat. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication,
this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition -
our human concept of who God is <b><font size="4">*
</font></b> "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good
points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?).
But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using
what you have to serve the needs of the universe.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to
live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our
calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the
important partnerships the future needs?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Janice Ulangca</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="4"><b>* </b><font size="3">Just back from a
great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the
"human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology,
the depth and openness of life.</font></font></div>
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<a rel="nofollow" title="stevehar11201@gmail.com">Steve
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" title="dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a>
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:30
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<div style="font:10pt/normal arial;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:normal;"><b>Subject:</b> [Dialogue] Better to have Qs
with "shape" to find your calling,more like these</div>
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