<DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;">The answer to "what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?" is to invent the 21st century version of RS-1 and teach the hell out of it. (sorry about ending in a preposition. <BR>-David Walters<BR><BR>--- icabombay@igc.org wrote:<BR><BR>From: Jack Gilles <icabombay@igc.org><BR>To: Colleague Dialogue <dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net><BR>Subject: Re: [Dialogue] The key question . . .<BR>Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2012 11:20:09 -0500<BR><BR>Alright Jim, you seem to be serious about this question thing, so I'll give you the question that I feel is THE question.
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<DIV>Given the stance that "History rides on the back of the religious" that we embodied and lived..... <B>"Who are the 'religious' today, where would you look to find them, what are the marks that tell you so, and what might we share (and how) with them so that they are empowered and connected?"</B></DIV>
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<DIV>On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:54 AM, James Wiegel wrote:</DIV><BR>
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<TD valign="top"><FONT size="4">Well, this is already a better conversation than I imagined. Candidates so far:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT size="4" face="Arial">Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? Jan and Steve<BR>What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?</FONT><FONT size="4"> Jan<BR>"How do I get you to change your mind and do what I think is right?" Jim B<BR></FONT><FONT color="#000000" size="4" face="Arial"><FONT size="4"><FONT size="4">"How are we to live together and preserve this planet for the future?" ? Karen<BR><BR> any others?</FONT><BR><BR></FONT></FONT>Jim Wiegel<BR><BR>"The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>401 North Beverly Way, Tolleson, Arizona 85353-2401<BR>+1 623-363-3277 skype: jfredwiegel<BR><A href="mailto:jfwiegel@yahoo.com">jfwiegel@yahoo.com</A> <A href="http://www.partnersinparticipation.com/">www.partnersinparticipation.com</A><BR><BR>Upcoming public course opportunities:<BR>ToP Facilitation Methods, Sept 11-12, 2012<BR>ToP Strategic Planning, Oct 9-10, 2012<BR>The AZ Community of Practice meets the 1st Friday- Sept 7, 2012<BR>Facilitation Mastery : Our Mastering the Technology of Participation program is available in Phoenix in 2012-3. Program begins on Nov 14-16, 2012 <BR>See short video <A href="http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55">http://partnersinparticipation.com/?page_id=55</A> and website for further details.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 7/1/12, Janice Ulangca <I><<A href="mailto:aulangca@stny.rr.com">aulangca@stny.rr.com</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial">Thanks for this Forbes article, Steve. I observe myself and others needing, and having the opportunity to, re-find our "calling". This happens often as circumstances change - health, economic resources, people dying, new friends, new ideas, communities/institutions dying, communities/institutions showing signs of new life, etc. . And the more I am sensitive to the nuances of my situation, the more I realize that there are open doors in even the most restrictive situations (The Future Is Open) - so circumstances are always changing, at least somewhat. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial">In Forbes, such a dollar oriented publication, this author uses the word "calling" - that comes from a religious tradition - our human concept of who God is <STRONG><FONT size="4">* </FONT></STRONG> "calling" us to know-do-be something. She makes good points - including taking the long view (what does the future require?). But "following your dreams" doesn't quite cut it as a total substitute for using what you have to serve the needs of the universe.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial">In this 50th year of EI/ICA, some of the questions to live with: Considering what we were/are/might be, what is our calling? What are we called to know/do/be? What are some of the important partnerships the future needs?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size="4" face="Arial"><STRONG>* </STRONG><FONT size="3">Just back from a great week at Chautauqua with M-F talks by John Shelby Spong. Thus the "human concept of God" as a foundation for approaching the Bible, theology, the depth and openness of life.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Dialogue] Better to have Qs with "shape" to find your calling,more like these</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><A href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-calling/">http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessicahagy/2012/06/26/20-ways-to-find-your-calling/</A><BR></SPAN><BR>Message from: Steve's iPad in Chicago
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