We are very much on the same page. Obama has dealt with an extremely difficult congress, and has done well given the circumstances.<br>Charles<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Marianna Bailey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wmbailey@charter.net" target="_blank">wmbailey@charter.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I agree with Randy. I think Obama has done the best he can in a very hostile situation. <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
<br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Marianna</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div>On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:09 PM, R Williams wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:tahoma,new york,times,serif">
<div><span>Jann and Sunny,</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I too have struggled with some of the decisions the President and his administration have made, like for example, the decision to allow super pacs to raise money for his campaign. Since I can't be happy with all his particular actions, I've had to fall back on his values, and there I believe his are as close to my own as any national candidate for office in my lifetime. So for now I will continue to trust his foundational values and I will stick with him as my candidate until I feel his values have shifted to the point that I no longer can if I am to maintain my own integrity.</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div><div><span>Our father in freedom
Dietrich Bonhoeffer told us that often the choices are between wrong and wrong, and right and right. My experience in choosing candidates is that it is always between individuals who are both right and wrong at the same time, that is, there's good and bad in all of them (and, by the way, all of us.) This is one reason why it is a distortion to demonize those with whom we disagree.</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div><div><span>The 2008 presidential election was the first for me in which I felt I was voting "for" the candidate I supported rather than "against" the one I did not support . I confess I'm not as enthusiastic about Obama now as I was last time around, but it is so clear to me that the values of Mitt Romney are so contrary to my own that there is no dilemma whatsoever for me as to who I will vote
for.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>Randy</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>PS I believe any elected official, who serves a term with an eye toward getting elected for another term, is compromised to one degree or another. That is why I would support the presidency being limited to one 6-year term. If Obama is re-elected I believe his lame duck status will allow him to do things he never did in his first term. I feel<var></var> this is indicative more of a flaw in the system than a flaw in the man.</span></div>
<div></div><div> </div><div>"Listen to what is emerging from yourself to the course of being in the world; not to be supported by it, but to bring it to reality as it desires."<br>-Martin Buber (adapted)<br></div>
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</div> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com" target="_blank">LAURELCG@aol.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:LAURELCG@aol.com" target="_blank">LAURELCG@aol.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net" target="_blank">dialogue@lists.wedgeblade.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 4, 2012 12:41 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Dialogue] the President<br> </font> </div> <br>
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<div>I agree. I'm profoundly disappointed in Mr. Obama and his administration.
First, for leaving the hawks to guard the economic henhouse (Geitner, for
example), secondly, for taking on more unchecked, unbalanced executive power
than even George Bush dared. (drone strikes and immigrant deportations
increased) and this adds a third arena. I pray for orderly evolution to more
equity and civility.</div>
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<div>Thanks for sharing, Sunny,</div>
<div>Jann</div>
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<div>In a message dated 6/4/2012 10:08:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
<a href="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net" target="_blank">sunwalker@comcast.net</a> writes:</div>
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<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt">Well, my FBI file
grows. I’ve written another president – not one I ever expected to. I followed
Steve Harrington’s link to the cartoon discussion and randomly (you’ve
noticed, it’s how my brain works, sighhhh…) a nearby link. There I found this
comment. So I simply asked the President to heed the words as they will make a
difference in the election:</span></font></div>
<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"> </span></font></div>
<div><font color="black" face="Georgia"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:rgb(213,212,210);font-family:Georgia">We
hear much about civility in public life, and many colleges now insert civility
discussions into the curriculum. More and more, President Obama’s
speeches are worth studying as examples of incivility, of precisely what a
president should not do this far out from the election. Cheap and
puerile, they offer the guilty pleasures of raillery, a moment’s chuckle and a
lengthening contempt for people of different views. Such rhetoric coming
out of the president’s mouth poisons civic life, for every time he throws a
cynical and insulting characterization to the audience, he licenses the
blowhard talking head, the obnoxious columnist, and hordes of lesser incumbent
politicians in their own campaigns to do the
same.</span></font></div>
<div style="background:white"><font color="navy" face="Georgia"><span style="background:rgb(213,212,210);color:navy;font-family:Georgia;font-size:10.5pt"> </span></font></div>
<div style="background:white"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="background:white;color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt">Your
thoughts</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="background:rgb(213,212,210);color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt">?</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"></span></font></div>
<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"> </span></font></div>
<div><i><i><font color="navy" face="Viner Hand ITC" size="5"><span style="color:navy;font-family:"Viner Hand ITC";font-size:18pt">Sunny</span></font></i></i><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></div>
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<div><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt">Sunny
Walker</span></font><font color="navy" face="Calibri"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri">
</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></div>
<div><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt">SunWalker
Enterprises</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></div>
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(cell)</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"></span></font></div>
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<div><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt"><a title="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net" href="mailto:sunwalker@comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sunwalker@comcast.net</a></span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"></span></font></div>
<div><font color="navy" face="Calibri" size="3"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt">Aurora</span></font><font color="navy" face="Calibri"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Calibri">,
CO</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"></span></font></div>
<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="color:navy;font-family:Arial;font-size:10pt"> </span></font></div>
<div><font color="purple" face="Pristina" size="3"><span style="color:purple;font-family:Pristina;font-size:12pt">No mattter how
far you've gone down the wrong road, turn back. ~ Turkish
Proverb</span></font></div>
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